No Sam...they were religious ceremonies...just like the heterosexual
marriages.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:45 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: BITTER SCALIA LEAVES U.S.


They were civil unions and they were rare


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On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Eric Roberts <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Bullshit Sam...up until the Middle ages, even Christianity performed 
> gay marriages.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:04 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: BITTER SCALIA LEAVES U.S.
>
>
> Again with this?
>
> It was very rare and they had no legal standing.
>
> .
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Eric Roberts < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thousands of years of traditions that allowed gay marriage Sam?
> > Romans allowed it.  Pre-Christian Celts and Norse allowed it.  
> > Greeks
> allowed it.
> > Hindus allowed it.  The only faiths that didn't allow it were Islam 
> > and Christianity...even most sects of Judaism are fine with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:32 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: BITTER SCALIA LEAVES U.S.
> >
> >
> > Apples and oranges. That ruling is based on thousands of years of 
> > traditions from around the world. By introducing it that way, the 
> > same-sex marriage has no standing. I'm sure that ruling can also 
> > apply to sacrificial lambs the way you're using it.It doesn't 
> > declare what a marriage is, but uses traditional heterosexual 
> > standard for it's ruling.
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Eric Roberts < 
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Marriage is a right according the ruling in Loving vs. Virginia in
> > > 1967
> > >
> > > In Chief Justice Earl Warren's opinion for the decision he stated
that:
> > > " Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental 
> > > to our very existence and survival..."
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:09 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: Re: BITTER SCALIA LEAVES U.S.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't like to use the word "hate". Do they hate the people who 
> > > > are gay? I doubt it.
> > >
> > >
> > > The article you found funny implied Scalia hated (disliked) gays 
> > > so much he was looking for a country that didn't have them.
> > >
> > > Are they grossed out or uncomfortable with people who are gay?
> > > > Most likely.
> > >
> > >
> > > How the hell did you get in their heads and come up with that? 
> > > Maybe a percentage feel that way but that's an awfully large brush 
> > > you paint
> > with.
> > >
> > >  Do they want to deny these people equal rights because of
> > >
> > > > those feelings? Apparently.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is marriage a Right?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > That's just bizarre. Most of my gay friends don't give a rats 
> > > > > ass about gay marriage and they don't hate gays. Only the ones 
> > > > > that hate hero-sexuals do. In my experience.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've met a lot of gay people...but never ONE who hated
heterosexuals.
> > > > That would be weird to "hate" about 90% of the population....
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have a friend that relives his black eye from London in the 
> > > 70's, every year we get to relive the story on facebook. Another 
> > > blames hetro's for his lovers suicide 15 years ago. We hear about 
> > > that all the time. They don't come out and say they hate hetro's 
> > > but it's like Larry and conservatives, you know where he stands.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Marriage isn't a constitutional right but somehow, now, gay 
> > > > > marriage
> > > is?
> > > > > And the way they did that was to label all opposed as haters? 
> > > > > A sad day indeed.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > YOU are labelling them haters....the rest of us are labelling 
> > > > them as people who would deny others equal rights because of how 
> > > > they were
> > born.
> > > > You like to use the word "hate" because it brings emotion to the
> table.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Again equal rights? Civil unions create equality. I don't know 
> > > anybody that's against civil unions. Do you? You started with the 
> > > emotions about the justices.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well...that's great for billboards and bumper stickers...but 
> > > > when you get down to brass tacks, it's really quite simple: Do 
> > > > you wish to deny people equal rights because of how they were born?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Civil Unions
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sam....give me one valid argument AGAINST gay marriage that does 
> > > > NOT involve a view that would prejudice against homosexuals, or 
> > > > in some way cast their love as inferior or even harmful, when 
> > > > compared to hetero relationships?? Give me one, and i'll happily 
> > > > admit that there is a non-bigoted argument against gay marriage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Most people that are against gay marriages, I'm guessing, have 
> > > nothing against gays and civil unions. They just want to avoid 
> > > watering down the traditional marriage as we know it. It's already 
> > > having trouble with divorce rates increasing regularly.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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