What if you decide you wanted a boy but it's a girl? .
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > If the neonate cannot survive a few hours beyond birth then yes. If it has > no brain (ancephaly) or similar conditions, then yes. Life alone is not > enough, quality of life is as if not more important. > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm guessing you support aborting a child after birth too. I'm not sure > > what you're arguing for but you seem angry. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > So you have no problem with horribly deformed or disabled fetuses being > > > carried to term, when at best they would survive for a few hours? > > > > > > That is incredibly cruel. > > > > > > As for the latest excuse - fetal pain at 20 weeks, simply not possible. > > > The the fetus may have a brain but at 20 weeks there is no perception > > > period. There are few i f any thalamacortical connections - those don't > > > come in for another month, so no pain. The brain itself is just a > > > suspension of cells - the synapses are still growing and connecting. At > > 20 > > > weeks the nerve fibers are not even developed enough to transmit a pain > > > signal. Pain requires a conscious recognition or awareness of a noxious > > > stimulus. Neither withdrawal reflexes nor hormonal stress responses to > > > invasive procedures prove the existence of fetal pain. This is because > > > these same responses can be elicited by nonpainful means and occur > > without > > > conscious cortical processing. Awareness of pain requires functional > > > thalamocortical connections. These fibers begin appearing between 23 to > > 30 > > > weeksÂ’ gestational age at the earlieet. Additionally EEG research > > suggests > > > the capacity for functional pain perception in fetuses probably does > not > > > exist before 29 or 30 weeks. > > > http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=201429 > > > > > > So another case of the GOTP ignoring reality and insisting that > ideology > > > trumps science and reality. Next thing you know they'll try a King > > Canute. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So you support late-term abortion for any reason? > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got to say, I'm quite amazed at how well these state > republican > > > > > legislatures are organized in their efforts to curb abortion > rights. > > I > > > > find > > > > > it very amusing that they all seem to be using the line of > > "protecting > > > > the > > > > > health of women" in their efforts to impose harsh restrictions on > > > clinics > > > > > to eventually shut them down. Yet, they can't seem to point to any > > > > evidence > > > > > that this would actually help women in any way. > > > > > > > > > > I'm still trying to figure out how this relates to jobs as from > what > > I > > > > > remember from the last campaign season, that's the most important > > thing > > > > for > > > > > our country and the current president was wasting time on public > > > health. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
