Did you not say earlier that it is not a crime until/unless you are in an
accident and under the influence?


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:57 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Yes it is.  If you're at that level. If its proven or you do something you
> should be prosecuted and punished severely.
>
> However I shouldn't have to be checked out at a stop "Just in case"
> On Jul 8, 2013 11:53 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > And operating a motor vehicle under the influence is not?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Its a violation of honor and the social contract.
> > > On Jul 8, 2013 11:29 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > How are you the 'victim'. If I simply stand in your driveway and do
> not
> > > > impede you in any way. In what way are you a 'victim'?
> > > >
> > > > So everyone should be able to drive how ever fast they want, where
> they
> > > > want, whenever they want? Even in a school zone when school is
> letting
> > > out?
> > > >
> > > > Passing a stopped school bus with flashing red lights is OK with you
> so
> > > > long as no one gets harmed?
> > > >
> > > > At least you are consistent, I will give you that.
> > > >
> > > > Why should perjury be a crime, but not the others? If I lie under
> oath,
> > > and
> > > > no one is harmed as a result, who is the victim?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm the victim if you enter my land. My rights have been infringed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Medical? If it's fraud and you're saying you're something you're
> not
> > it
> > > > > should be a crime. The assaults we're seeing on alternative
> medicine
> > > and
> > > > > medical care are wrong. My body is my own and I should be able to
> do
> > > with
> > > > > it as I see fit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think we should have speed limits.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there should be warning lights but not crimes. Why should I
> > sit
> > > > at
> > > > > a red at 2am with no one in sight?
> > > > >
> > > > > All of those but perjury shouldn't be crimes, unless and until
> > > negligence
> > > > > occurs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lying under oath should be a crime. Take the fifth but don't lie
> > under
> > > > > oath.
> > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 11:12 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, 'entering your land' is a crime - albeit 'victim-less', but
> > > driving
> > > > > > while intoxicated is not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I practiced medicine without a license and only helped people
> > and
> > > > not
> > > > > > one person was harmed in any way, is that a crime?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are a few other 'victimless crimes' that should only be
> > > prosecuted
> > > > > > when/if an accident/harm occurs as a result:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Speed limits
> > > > > > Stopping for a red light
> > > > > > Stopping for a stop sign
> > > > > > Passing a school bus with red flashing lights
> > > > > > Passing another vehicle without a 'dotted line'
> > > > > > Building code violations
> > > > > > Purjury
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And those are the just the ones I thought of in the car on the
> way
> > > home
> > > > > > from a client site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The first is a property crime as soon as they enter your land.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second is a crime, but with waivers and the like shouldn't
> > be.
> > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 9:09 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If someone picks a lock on your home, does not damage the
> lock
> > at
> > > > > all,
> > > > > > > > touches nothing but the floor as they walk through your
> house,
> > > then
> > > > > > > leaves
> > > > > > > > without taking or damaging anything...has a crime been
> > committed?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on your previous answers, we should assume you will
> > answer
> > > > 'no'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If a person without a medical license practices medicine, is
> it
> > > > only
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > crime when/unless someone gets hurt form their actions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on your previous answers, we should assume you will
> > answer
> > > > > 'yes'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM, LRS Scout <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We didn't?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ask Louis Farrakhan.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ask a meeting of the sons of confederate soldiers, a
> meeting
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > hibernians, or a native American.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ask me. No crimes, no warrant, they came in my home, they
> > laid
> > > > > hands
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > and they took my property.
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:59 AM, "Justin Scott" <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Obviously you are court I'm how these things are
> > currently
> > > > > > > > implemented,
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm saying is wrong, its immoral.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I was active with the Libertarian Party a decade
> ago I
> > > > might
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > agreed with you.  Since then I have seen too many people
> > die
> > > > from
> > > > > > > drug
> > > > > > > > > > overdoses or killed by drunk drivers to continue with
> that
> > > line
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > reasoning.  That kind of thinking was better suited to
> 250
> > > > years
> > > > > > ago
> > > > > > > > > > when we didn't have the individual ability to so easily
> > > inflict
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > much damage on ourselves or one another.
> > > > > > > > > >
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