She had plenty of funding.

And if a great service/movement like Groklaw had to shut down, we suck.

The current trend is completely and utterly anti-American.

Fuck them. And fuck us for letting them.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> email was never safe. She's just now saying that this is so? C'mon.
>
> She probably had to shut down the site because she ran out of money, and
> used this as convenient cover to look like a martyr.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > It is quite sad how this issue is destroying the internet. Cloud
> companies
> > estimate they have lost about 50m USD in business from overseas so far,
> and
> > say they could lose even more.
> >
> > Companies that provide secure or encrypted email services have closed
> > entirely as they cannot operate within the United States.
> >
> > Almost everyone's data passes through the US at some point, so everyone
> > falls victim to the blanket collection of information, with no clue as to
> > how this information will be used in the future.
> >
> > It's quite insane. It removes the ability for people to have frank and
> open
> > discussions across a medium that has done more to further such
> discussions
> > than anything else in modern history.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://gizmodo.com/essential-legal-site-groklaw-shuts-down-rather-than-fac-1171125087
> >
> > "For the last 10 years, if you wanted to understand a complex legal issue
> > in the news, your first stop was Groklaw. A free, open source exchange of
> > theories and ideas, Groklaw has been an invaluable resource for lawyers
> and
> > laymen alike. Last night, its owner pulled the plug. It was a matter of
> > privacy.
> >
> > In an emotional post last night, Groklaw founder Pamela Jones laid out
> her
> > reasons for shuttering her internet legal salon. In the face of
> government
> > pressures placed on email providers like Lavabit and Silent Circleóand
> > those sites' decision to shut down rather than give up their clients'
> > information to the fedsóshe decided to pull the plug preemptively.
> Groklaw
> > couldn't operate, she explained, without email. And email is no longer
> safe
> > (if it ever was):
> >
> >
>
> 

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