Yup On Aug 20, 2013 10:34 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > She had plenty of funding. > > And if a great service/movement like Groklaw had to shut down, we suck. > > The current trend is completely and utterly anti-American. > > Fuck them. And fuck us for letting them. > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > email was never safe. She's just now saying that this is so? C'mon. > > > > She probably had to shut down the site because she ran out of money, and > > used this as convenient cover to look like a martyr. > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It is quite sad how this issue is destroying the internet. Cloud > > companies > > > estimate they have lost about 50m USD in business from overseas so far, > > and > > > say they could lose even more. > > > > > > Companies that provide secure or encrypted email services have closed > > > entirely as they cannot operate within the United States. > > > > > > Almost everyone's data passes through the US at some point, so everyone > > > falls victim to the blanket collection of information, with no clue as > to > > > how this information will be used in the future. > > > > > > It's quite insane. It removes the ability for people to have frank and > > open > > > discussions across a medium that has done more to further such > > discussions > > > than anything else in modern history. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gizmodo.com/essential-legal-site-groklaw-shuts-down-rather-than-fac-1171125087 > > > > > > "For the last 10 years, if you wanted to understand a complex legal > issue > > > in the news, your first stop was Groklaw. A free, open source exchange > of > > > theories and ideas, Groklaw has been an invaluable resource for lawyers > > and > > > laymen alike. Last night, its owner pulled the plug. It was a matter of > > > privacy. > > > > > > In an emotional post last night, Groklaw founder Pamela Jones laid out > > her > > > reasons for shuttering her internet legal salon. In the face of > > government > > > pressures placed on email providers like Lavabit and Silent Circleóand > > > those sites' decision to shut down rather than give up their clients' > > > information to the fedsóshe decided to pull the plug preemptively. > > Groklaw > > > couldn't operate, she explained, without email. And email is no longer > > safe > > > (if it ever was): > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:366516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
