Why are you proving my point while saying I'm wrong? .
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > Wrong again. > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/va-supreme-court-tosses-cuccinellis-case-against-u-va/2012/03/02/gIQAeOqjmR_blog.html > > To quote: > Posted at 11:04 AM ET, 03/02/2012 > Va. Supreme Court tosses Cuccinellis case against former U-Va. climate > change researcher > By Anita Kumar > > Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (Mandel Ngan - AFP/Getty Images) > The Virginia Supreme Court said Friday that Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli > II does not have the authority to demand records related to a former > University of Virginia climate researchers work. > > In 2010, Cuccinelli (R), a global warming skeptic, issued a civil > investigative demand, essentially a subpoena, for documents from the > states flagship university.... > > The Virginia State Supreme court judgement: > http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/opnscvwp/1102359.pdf > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > They didn't say he was innocent, just that the law has no jurisdiction > over > > science in a university. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > bs. the courts decided otherwise. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Mann got caught lying on the taxpayers dime and the courts decided > that > > > the > > > > Attorney General had no right to investigate a University. That's a > far > > > cry > > > > from "trying to shut down research". It's actually trying to keep it > > > > honest. And we all know Mann is not the kind of scientist we want > > around. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No science is not political, rather there are those who would force > > > > > politics into scientific endeavors. Ideally you go with what the > data > > > > > dictates, and change when more data says so. For instance in my own > > > > > (former) field there's been a transition in the last 20 years from > > > > > behavioral to cognitive and now neurophysical based strictly on the > > > data. > > > > > > > > > > It hasn't been scientists who have tried to politicize science, > its > > > been > > > > > politicians like Cuccinelli of Virginia who tried to shut down > > climate > > > > > change research at UVA who have injected politics into science. Or > > > > > corporatists like the Koch brothers who have funded bogus think > tanks > > > to > > > > > contradict scientific findings, or religious fanatics trying to > > inject > > > > > their own twisted beliefs (e.g., fetal pain, evolutionary theory, > or > > > the > > > > > heliocentric model the solar system). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until all our scientists are robots instead of humans, there will > > > > always > > > > > be > > > > > > a political element to science. But if you are looking for your > > LEAST > > > > > > political arena, science is about the best you'll get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very true. Unfortunately its no longer the case. in the 70's > the > > > > > majority > > > > > > > of scientists (56 > > > > > > > 56%) employed in the US were Republican. In the Pew Trust > Survey > > > of a > > > > > > > couple of years ago, less than 6% now label themselves as > > > Republican. > > > > > > Given > > > > > > > the hostility of the party to science in general and to several > > > > > > fundamental > > > > > > > precepts of science in general, specifically evolution, I don't > > > think > > > > > > that > > > > > > > will change any time soon, much to the Republican Party's > > > detriment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Scott Stewart < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with the sentiment that science shouldn't be > > politicized. > > > > It > > > > > > > > shouldn't be partisan at all (bi or otherwise) it needs to be > > > above > > > > > the > > > > > > > > stupidity that is partisan politics. > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2013 1:57 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/scientists_hate_the_gop_for_a_reason/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presented without a comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:366864 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
