Mann got caught lying on the taxpayers dime and the courts decided that the
Attorney General had no right to investigate a University. That's a far cry
from "trying to shut down research". It's actually trying to keep it
honest. And we all know Mann is not the kind of scientist we want around.

.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> No science is not political, rather there are those who would force
> politics into scientific endeavors. Ideally you go with what the data
> dictates, and change when more data says so. For instance in my own
> (former) field there's been a transition in the last 20 years from
> behavioral to cognitive and now neurophysical based strictly on the data.
>
>  It hasn't been scientists who have tried to politicize science, its been
> politicians like Cuccinelli of Virginia who tried to shut down climate
> change research at UVA who have injected politics into science. Or
> corporatists like the Koch brothers who have funded bogus think tanks to
> contradict scientific findings, or religious fanatics trying to inject
> their own twisted beliefs (e.g., fetal pain, evolutionary theory, or the
> heliocentric model the solar system).
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Until all our scientists are robots instead of humans, there will always
> be
> > a political element to science. But if you are looking for your LEAST
> > political arena, science is about the best you'll get.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Very true. Unfortunately its no longer the case. in the 70's the
> majority
> > > of scientists (56
> > > 56%) employed in the US were Republican. In the Pew Trust Survey of a
> > > couple of years ago, less than 6% now label themselves as Republican.
> > Given
> > > the hostility of the party to science in general and to several
> > fundamental
> > > precepts of science in general, specifically evolution, I don't think
> > that
> > > will change any time soon, much to the Republican Party's detriment.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Scott Stewart <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree with the sentiment that science shouldn't be politicized. It
> > > > shouldn't be partisan at all (bi or otherwise) it needs to be above
> the
> > > > stupidity that is partisan politics.
> > > > On Aug 31, 2013 1:57 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/scientists_hate_the_gop_for_a_reason/
> > > > >
> > > > > presented without a comment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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