Why should the Democrats not fund the plan that they put in place?
This plan was voted for, it was agreed upon and it has stood up to all the
normal challenges that the GOP could bring against it.

Why does the GOP feel it has the right to shut down a country, and affect
the entire worlds economic markets, because it did not get what it wanted?
They LOST the elections. Someone else gets to lead the country until the
next elections. Deal with it.

This isn't both sides. It is one side that is forcing an issue no matter
what the costs are.  Since when has raising the debt ceiling been an open
point of negotiation? And what party was the last party to use it as such?
Think about it.

The playground is burning, and you have two taps to turn . The GOP says
give me what I want, what I have not been able to get through any other
means, or I will not turn this tap. The playground is burning.

Is that what you refer to as "negotiation" ?

It is blackmail! And the segment of the population that seems satisfied to
sit in the flames and nod their heads is equally baffling to me. Can you
think of the impact this can have on the bond and investment markets?




On 2 October 2013 07:22, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Where in this article does it say one political party holding US to
> ransom? Here is a quote in case you missed this part:
>
> On Capitol Hill there were signs only of the two sides digging into their
> respective corners, with the House Republican Conference having what
> several sources described as their best conference in months after Speaker
> John Boehner’s demands to gut Obamacare prompted the budget impasse. And at
> a private Democratic lunch in the Senate’s ornate Mansfield Room, speaker
> after speaker heaped praised on Reid for his no-compromise stand, attendees
> said.
>
> Notice the first sentence? Where it says "the two sides digging into their
> respective corners…"?
>
> What's really going on is that the GOP does not want Obamacare fully
> funded right now. They are at the table waiting for the Dems to come and
> sit down to compromise. You have a Democratic POTUS who is threatening to
> veto ANY bill that does not fully fund Obamacare. You have Dems that are
> not willing to compromise. It seems that BOTH sides are holding the US
> hostage.
>
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > This seems absolutely nuts.
> >
> >
> http://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-turning-into-debt-ceiling-standoff-2013-10
> >
> > So this may cause a second crash of the US economy, and everything that
> > goes along with that. It's a level of political blackmail that I never
> > thought was possible. The GOP is willing to destroy the entire thing
> rather
> > than have the democratically elected leaders lead.
> >
> > What's really going on?
> >
>
> 

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