I believe that both parties should do what's best for the country, not 
themselves or their lobbyists, but that'll never happen. 

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> On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> All the polls say that the US is in favour of a new healthcare plan.
> The reports are saying that the costs are actually lower than what were
> first projected.
> 
> You think what the GOP is doing is the right way to go about it?
> So if a Republican wins and decides to pass a bill that the Democrats don't
> agree with, you agree that shutting down the US indefinitely should be an
> accepted form of politics?
> 
> Or is it just this time, because it's the republicans and because it's for
> something that you agree with?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 October 2013 07:39, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This bill was shoved down our throat. There is a large segment of the
>> population that never wanted it, but those in Capitol Hill don't really
>> care what we want. They only care what they want. The only time they really
>> care what we the people want is when it's re-election time, which is coming
>> up soon. And then they only make empty promises. Even that wretched whore
>> Pelosi said that we have to pass obamacare to see what's in obamacare.
>> Really? Since when do we pass a law on something that we really don't know
>> the contents of? I have not personally met one single person who was for
>> this, not one. I know of some people who are for it, but I have not met
>> them personally. Of course I have the luxury of complaining about this
>> because I will never have to sign up for Obamacare. But that does not mean
>> that I don't care about family members who might have to, but don't want to.
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why should the Democrats not fund the plan that they put in place?
>>> This plan was voted for, it was agreed upon and it has stood up to all
>> the
>>> normal challenges that the GOP could bring against it.
>>> 
>>> Why does the GOP feel it has the right to shut down a country, and affect
>>> the entire worlds economic markets, because it did not get what it
>> wanted?
>>> They LOST the elections. Someone else gets to lead the country until the
>>> next elections. Deal with it.
>>> 
>>> This isn't both sides. It is one side that is forcing an issue no matter
>>> what the costs are.  Since when has raising the debt ceiling been an open
>>> point of negotiation? And what party was the last party to use it as
>> such?
>>> Think about it.
>>> 
>>> The playground is burning, and you have two taps to turn . The GOP says
>>> give me what I want, what I have not been able to get through any other
>>> means, or I will not turn this tap. The playground is burning.
>>> 
>>> Is that what you refer to as "negotiation" ?
>>> 
>>> It is blackmail! And the segment of the population that seems satisfied
>> to
>>> sit in the flames and nod their heads is equally baffling to me. Can you
>>> think of the impact this can have on the bond and investment markets?
> 
> 

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