In the fall of the year, Pelosi said today, the outside groups...were saying its about abortion, which it never was. Its about death panels, which it never was. Its about a job-killer, which it creates four million. Its about increasing the deficit; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit. Her contention was that the Senate didnt have a bill. And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. They were still trying to woo the Republicans, Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to get that 60th vote that never was coming. Thats why [there was a] reconciliation [vote] that required only a simple majority.
So, thats why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isnt, Pelosi continued. It is none of these things. Its not going to be any of these things. She recognized that her comment was a good statement to take out of context. But the minority leader added, But the fact is, until you have a bill, you cant really, we cant really debunk what theyre saying.... On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let's do a summary. > > The bill was written in private committees with big donors, insurance > companies and pharmaceutical companies. When it was ready it was 1000 plus > pages and they voted on it very quickly in the House. I think maybe three > or four Rhino's voted yes and the rest no. Then it went to the Senate. They > changed it and voted. All R's voted no. Then it went back to the house. > There, Reid, Pelosi and a few others, but no Republicans, had locked door > meetings sometimes going through the night. When they finished they > released it and voted on it within hours. That is why Pelosi said you have > to pass it to see what is in it. No Republicans voted yes. At that time the > Dems controlled both houses and the presidency so it was pushed through > even though nobody wanted it. The next election the Republicans gained over > 60 seats in the house, mainly because of Obamacare. That was the largest > mid-term gain since 1938. > > . > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wait....if Republican Congress-people actually voted, then how was it > done > > 'behind closed doors without any Republicans present'? Seems you just > > contradicted yourself. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The Senate bill passed by a vote of 6039 on December 24, 2009, with > all > > > Democrats and two independents voting for, and all Republicans voting > > > against (except for Jim Bunning, who did not vote) > > > The House passed the Senate bill with a 219212 vote on March 21, 2010, > > > with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it. > > > > > > Maybe you should study up before taking such a strong position. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Sam, it seems that at a town hall meeting Obama seemed to > imply > > > > that > > > > > > ALL talks would be televised publicly, and this was not done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/517/health-care-reform-public-sessions-C-SPAN/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But are you conceding this was done behind closed without any > > > republicans > > > > > present? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you implying that the ACA was voted on by both houses of Congress > > and > > > > not a single Republican cast a vote? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Scott Stroz > > > > --------------- > > > > You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can > > wonder > > > > what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris > > > > > > > > http://xkcd.com/386/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:367559 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
