Never any real studies = no studies that support my fucked up POV... -----Original Message----- From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
No. My point is there were never any real studies, only one that was flawed. Now we have a study that proves we don't know the effects despite how many times Larry swears his study is conclusive. . On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [email protected]> wrote: > > so your evidence is 1 study conducted over a 2 year span with the age > of kids at 12...I think the study may have to broaden it's time frame > a bit to be truly useful. > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You waving around that bs study again? > > > > Time to update your research > > > > Abstinence programs might work > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/01/AR2010 > 020102628.html > > > > . > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons > > <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > yes Sam, it has. We have gone through this multiple times. And > > > each and every time I provide about 4 or 5 different studies that > > > show that abstinence education is not statistically significantly > > > different from > > the > > > controls of no sex ed. And I've also shown you a number of > > > comparison between comprehensive based sex ed programs and > > > abstinence. Each and > > every > > > study showed again that it was not as effective as sex ed and in > > > some > > cases > > > worse than the controls. > > > > > > Here is another semi futile attempt to get it through your skull. > > > You > are > > > very wrong on this issue. The scientific data is very clear. In > > > Interventions to reduce unintended pregnancies among adolescents: > > > systematic review of randomised controlled trials Alba DiCenso, > > > Gordon Guyatt, A Willan, &L Griffith > > > http://www.bmj.com/content/324/7351/1426 > > > > > > The authors compared comprehensive sex education programs with > > > abstinence-only programs. Their review of several studies shows > > > that abstinence-only programs did not reduce the likelihood of > > > pregnancy of women who participated in the programs, but rather > > > increased it. Four abstinence programs and one school program were > > > associated with a > pooled > > > increase of 54% in the partners of men and 46% in women > > > (confidence interval 95% 0.95 to 2.25 and 0.98 to 2.26 respectively). > > > > > > In other words abstinence education does not work and is > > > associated > with > > a > > > potential increase in teen pregnancy rates. Moreover other studies > > > have found that abstinence education programs were associated with > > significantly > > > higher STD rates than comprehensive sex ed as welll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It hasn't been proven to be less effective. They just can't > > > > prove > it's > > > more > > > > effective. > > > > But you knew that. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Judah McAuley > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do people push to teach abstinence-only education when it > > > > > has > > been > > > > > proven time and time again to be less effective? > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, people push to teach what is comforting to > > > > > them, > what > > > > they > > > > > want things to be, rather than what they are or were. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:367731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
