This has some of the in of on what caused some policies to no longer meet the law's requirements...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/politics/obamacare-hearing/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The latest on ObamaCare Yeah. Too bad no one in the legislature spent _any_ time working to fix the details. What have we all been doing for the last 2 years, again? On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:06 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ugh. Pediatric dental care? > > It's early, but so far this law sucks. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sounds like not being Obamacare is the minimum Standard that fails. > > > > "What the president said and what everybody said all along is that > > there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care > > Act to > create > > minimum standards of coverage, minimum services that every insurance > > plan has to provide," Carney said. "So it's true that there are > > existing healthcare plans on the individual market that don't meet > > those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act." > > > > > > > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57609737/obamacare-more-than-2- > million-people-getting-booted-from-existing-health-insurance-plans/ > > > > Obamacare forces them to drop many of their plans that don't meet > > the > law's > > 10 minimum standards, including maternity care, emergency visits, > > mental health treatment and even pediatric dental care . > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > One question: What ACA "standard" are these policies unable to meet???? > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > When you lose MSNBC. . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/29/21222195-obama-admi > nistration-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite > > > > > > > > Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC > > > > News > > > that > > > > 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their > > > > insurance individually can expect to receive a "cancellation" > > > > letter or the equivalent over the next year because their > > > > existing policies don't > > meet > > > > the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert > predicts > > > that > > > > number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many > > > > of > > those > > > > forced to buy pricier new policies will experience "sticker shock." > > > > ... > > > > Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate > > > > that > > > because > > > > of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, "40 to 67 > > percent" > > > > of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because > > > > many policies will have been changed since the key date, "the > > > > percentage > of > > > > individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given > > > > year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range." > > > > That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 > > > > percent of > > > those > > > > in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, > > > > even > if > > > > they liked them. > > > > > > > > Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, "if you like your > health > > > > plan, you will be able to keep your health plan," was still > > > > saying in > > > 2012, > > > > "If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your > > > > health insurance." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/28/ObamaCare-Costs-15- > Million-Their-Health-Insurance-So-Far > > > > > > > > By merely adding up recent media reports, the National Center > > > > for > > Public > > > > Policy Research discovered that 1.5 million insurance > > > > cancellations > > have > > > > already gone out. These cancellations are all due to the > > > > ObamaCare > > > mandate > > > > that requires every health insurance policy meet a minimum > requirement > > > of a > > > > one-size-fits-all Cadillac plan that forces people to pay for > coverage > > > they > > > > neither want nor need. > > > > During his sales job to pass his signature health insurance > > > > plan, > > > President > > > > Obama repeatedly and without qualification promised the American > people > > > > that if you liked your insurance plan, you could keep it. Obama > > > > also promised everyone that their premiums would decrease and > > > > that he > would > > > > never raise taxes on the middle class. > > > > Already 1.5 million have had insurance they were happy with > > > > stripped > > from > > > > them. If the Congressional Budget Office is correct, this will > > > > happen > > to > > > > millions more. > > > > That is one broken promise. > > > > Sunday, the LA Times reported that middle-class Californians > > > > face, on average, a 30% rate increase "due to several factors ties to" > > ObamaCare. > > > > That is just one state, and it is another broken promise. > > > > One could also argue that these premium increases are nothing > > > > more > than > > > tax > > > > increases to pay for ObamaCare. So that is another broken promise. > > > > Finally, how many of the millions losing the health care plan > > > > they > like > > > > will lose their doctor in the process? That is yet another > > > > broken > > > promise. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not failing. > > > > > The website has problems. > > > > > > > > > > The opinion piece did not point out how it is failing now. > > > > > > > > > > And a Republican talking about supporting Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin? > > > Geez. > > > > > Continuing to commit suicide as a party without a clue, are they? > > > > > > > > > > Democrats are the new conservatives in the US. There's no > > > > > left. :-) > > > > > > > > > > On 29 October 2013 09:15, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ObamaCare Schaden-Fraud > > > > > > By C. Edmund Wright > > > > > > > > > > > > We did not grossly overpay cronies of yours to put the > > > > > > website > > > > together, > > > > > > and we did not forget the simple step of obtaining similar > > > > > > domain > > > names > > > > > to > > > > > > prevent cyber-squatting and identity theft. You tech > > > > > > geniuses, > > you! > > > > We > > > > > > did not hire ACORN and other known criminals as navigators > > > > > > to > help > > > get > > > > > > around the failing website, and we did not bring on sixteen > > thousand > > > > new > > > > > > IRS agents with the notion that they would help Americans > > > > > > stay > > > > healthier. > > > > > > And we did not fire a polite operator who simply took a > > > > > > phone > call > > > from > > > > > > Sean Hannity. > > > > > > > > > > > > You perverted first the very meaning of insurance with the > > > > > > pre-existing condition rules, and then really > > > > thought > > > > > > you could balance that out by perverting the system on the > > > > > > other > > end > > > by > > > > > > overcharging the young and healthy. You are obsessed with > > > > > > five > > > million > > > > > > lines of code glitches in the website software, while you > > > > > > are > > > ignoring > > > > > the > > > > > > billions of lines of code inside the strands of DNA that > > > > > > define > > human > > > > > > nature -- an essence you have misapprehended every way > > > > > > possible > > with > > > > this > > > > > > foundationally malignant idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:368257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
