Is this really smart guy a lurker?  Or am I just oblivious?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Scholars Expect Pledge Ruling Reversal


> Reasons why I'm not religious:
>
> - Most people of 'religion' always feel the need to project their beliefs
> onto others when it comes down to it (pledge of allegiance and currency
> being two good examples, the state of Utah being another). Why should they
> care if I'm of the same religion as them?
>
> - People take it way too seriously and are offended by other religions
> invading their 'turf', sometimes causing wars or even century long
crusades.
> These are wars which invade non-religious peoples' natural desire for
peace.
> That's right, some people have morals without needing them dictated to
them.
> I've decided, on my own, that killing and stealing is something I don't
want
> to do.
>
> - Most people feel obliged to be religious due to their upbringing, and
not
> because of the beliefs themselves - "it's the right thing to do".
>
> - It seems like a lazy cop-out to not having the absolute answer as to why
> we exist.
>
> - People with really strong beliefs about an unproven ideology is a
> turn-off.
>
> - The fact that they collect your money. True faith in something shouldn't
> require money to exist.
>
>
> This is just a power-play by the Christian-majority politicians - they
don't
> want to be told what to do, despite our constitution, so they're trying
> their darndest to keep the reign on their "Nation under God". Of course
when
> it comes to gun ownership (which I happen to be for), the constitution is
> the first thing to come out. Most of the dems probably agree with the
> district's decision, but because most voters bring religion before
political
> beliefs, they're saving their selves from crucification come election day.
>
> What does it matter if the word God is removed from the pledge, is this
> stopping you from practicing your faith in anyway? Does it offend you that
> you can't extend your religious beliefs to every single person in the
> country?
>
> I don't think this will be a big deal in another 20 - 40 years or so.
> Religion isn't 'cool' anymore, and most young people I know aren't buying
> into it despite the zealots' endless efforts.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:41 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Scholars Expect Pledge Ruling Reversal
> >
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal appeals court panel drew outrage
> > from across the political spectrum by ruling that it is
> > unconstitutuional for classrooms to recite the Pledge of
> > Allegiance, but the decision may not last for long.
> > Some legal scholars say the ruling will likely either be
> > overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court or reversed by the full
> > 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
> >
> > "I would bet an awful lot on that," Harvard University
> > scholar Laurence Tribe said.
> >
> > Wednesday's ruling was in response to an atheist's bid to
> > keep his second-grade daughter from being exposed to religion
> > in school. In a 2-1 decision in favor of Michael Newdow, the
> > panel took issue with the words "under God" in the pledge.
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53769-2002Jun27.html
> >
> >
> 
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