Have to disagree with you Adam:

Reasons why I'm not religious:

- Most people of 'religion' always feel the need to project their
beliefs
onto others when it comes down to it (pledge of allegiance and currency
being two good examples, the state of Utah being another). Why should
they
care if I'm of the same religion as them?

*****
I could really give a rip less if God is mentioned on currency or in the
pledge.  I think there is a bigger problem here.


- People take it way too seriously and are offended by other religions
invading their 'turf', sometimes causing wars or even century long
crusades.
These are wars which invade non-religious peoples' natural desire for
peace.

*******
So there are no religious people who aren't war mongers, and everyone
who doesn't have a religion is always at peace??


That's right, some people have morals without needing them dictated to
them.
I've decided, on my own, that killing and stealing is something I don't
want
to do.


********************
So did I, I grew up in family where my Dad is an agnostic and my mom and
atheist.  So I was taught right from wrong without the Church.  My
morals were "dictated" to me by my parents.



- Most people feel obliged to be religious due to their upbringing, and
not
because of the beliefs themselves - "it's the right thing to do".

**************
See above.  I was brought into the Church at age 18 by a friend.


- It seems like a lazy cop-out to not having the absolute answer as to
why
we exist.

****************
It's not a cop-out, it's called faith.  And for those of us that have it
we know why we exist.


- People with really strong beliefs about an unproven ideology is a
turn-off.

*************************
Once again, it's called faith and conviction.  If you don't belive
strongly in your beliefs what good are you?


- The fact that they collect your money. True faith in something
shouldn't
require money to exist.

********************************
It doesn't.  I am not required to give to the church I attend.  It is
optional.



This is just a power-play by the Christian-majority politicians - they
don't
want to be told what to do, despite our constitution, so they're trying
their darndest to keep the reign on their "Nation under God". 

******************************
All 99 of 'em ehhh?

Of course when
it comes to gun ownership (which I happen to be for), the constitution
is
the first thing to come out. Most of the dems probably agree with the
district's decision, but because most voters bring religion before
political
beliefs, they're saving their selves from crucification come election
day.

What does it matter if the word God is removed from the pledge, is this
stopping you from practicing your faith in anyway? Does it offend you
that
you can't extend your religious beliefs to every single person in the
country?

***************
Like I said I don't care if it is there or not.


I don't think this will be a big deal in another 20 - 40 years or so.
Religion isn't 'cool' anymore, and most young people I know aren't
buying
into it despite the zealots' endless efforts.

******************************
Now everyone who has faith is a zealot?  I know a lot of people who are
young I myself included who are very deep in their faith.  Just ask any
of the 500 or so junior high kids that are at our church for the youth
group.  



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Scholars Expect Pledge Ruling Reversal
> 
> 
> SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal appeals court panel drew outrage 
> from across the political spectrum by ruling that it is
> unconstitutuional for classrooms to recite the Pledge of 
> Allegiance, but the decision may not last for long.
> Some legal scholars say the ruling will likely either be 
> overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court or reversed by the full
> 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
> 
> "I would bet an awful lot on that," Harvard University 
> scholar Laurence Tribe said.
> 
> Wednesday's ruling was in response to an atheist's bid to 
> keep his second-grade daughter from being exposed to religion
> in school. In a 2-1 decision in favor of Michael Newdow, the 
> panel took issue with the words "under God" in the pledge.
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53769-2002Jun27.html
> 
> 

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