It makes sense to me. If you dislike or hate someone for something they were born with, you are an asshole.
Period. Now there may not be much society can do to you for being that kind of asshole, but you should be called for it. And if you provide an essential service (the only grocery store in 100 miles), then, as part of being allowed to run that business and provide that service, you cannot act like an asshole while doing that. If there are 2 grocery stores next to each other, you can probably get away with it. But you are still an asshole. And you can keep anyone off your land, for even those reasons, but you cannot PROFIT while doing that discriminating. (not you, since I know your mind doesnt run in those ruts, but the above hypothetical) I think we need to closely manage those protected classes, since it can get ridiculous, but I think the idea is a good one. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:04 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also is sexual orientation a protected class here? > > I know it is in some states, but it is not federally, right? > > The whole idea of a protected class is insane to me. > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > No, if your business is open to the public, your business has to be open > to > > all people OF A PROTECTED CLASS. > > > > There are plenty of legitimate reasons to turn someone down for business. > > But not solely because they are part of that class. > > > > What those protected classes are differs from state-to-state, and again > > different federally. > > > > Some judges have also ruled that "innate" characteristics, above and > beyond > > those delineated protected classes (race, gender, age, national origin, > > sexual orientation, and religion (which is not innate but taught), > veteran > > status (which is earned).) > > > > also, my understanding is not all businesses that do business with the > > public are subject to the discrimination laws, but those business that > > offer a "public accommodation", or where there is a "government interest" > > in making sure those services are protected. > > > > so, in arizona state, on the state court level, it is probably fine to > not > > make a penis cake, but you still could be sued (but would probably win). > on > > the federal court level, not so much. and you can kick the KKK out of > your > > shop at any point (but still get sued), but the suit would be dismissed > > early due to no protected class status. But a member of the Arian Church, > > on the other hand, could. > > > > But you could kick that same person out because they dated your daughter, > > or because they voted for Obama, or because they smell like elderberries. > > just not because of their religion. > > > > (proving that was the reason, in a suit, gets harder, but is legally > > acceptable) > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > If your business is open to the public you have to serve all the > > > public. End of story. > > > > > > Mind you you can always say you're too busy to take new orders at the > > > present time. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey < > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > While the headline emphasizes his comments about homosexuals, this > > > question > > > > is one that I thought about as well: > > > > > > > > "Would they force a Jewish photographer to work a Klan or Nazi event? > > How > > > > about forcing a Muslim caterer to work a pork barbeque [sic] dinner?" > > > > > > > > A slight correction to his assertion in my line of thought though... > > they > > > > wouldn't "force" anyone to do something. The bill would have only > > > > prevented the "offended" party from being able to bring a > > discrimination > > > > lawsuit against the business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until Later! > > > > C. Hatton Humphrey > > > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com > > > > > > > > Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do > > > some > > > > smelting to find it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.salon.com/2014/02/27/tea_party_leader_attacks_jan_brewer_for_allowing_%e2%80%9cslavery%e2%80%9d_and_penis_cakes/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Amazing what the Teahadis come up with now. More than a bit of > > > >> projection going on here. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:369516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
