I mean legislating in fear towards security, even in violations of the principals of this country and doing so because of popular support, or at least apathy.
Citizens United is a perfect example of Democracy over Republicanism to my mind. On 5/12/14, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Too far towards democracy? Could you explain what you mean there? It feels > like we are continuously headed toward plutocracy (Citizens United and the > like just codified it) rather than democracy, but perhaps I misunderstand > what you are trying to say. > > Cheers, > Judah > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Your pendulum description is right on with what I think about American >> politics, only instead of slowing down and eventually settling in the >> middle it accelerates with each swing. >> >> I'm afraid we've gone to far towards democracy, given up too much, to go >> back peacefully now. But then again, maybe that's the thing. Larry and >> I >> are equally valuable, as opposite poles? >> >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > I do not think they are capitalists, I think that it is a plutocracy. >> > Any >> > notion that there has been a mostly capitalist economy in the country >> > should have ended with "to big to fail". >> > >> > I believe that there have been times when our country has been more >> > capitalist and less capitalist. Capitalism seems to end up creating >> > large >> > enough winners that they quickly work on capturing the governmental >> > means >> > of regulation and move toward a plutocracy in which the winners cannot, >> via >> > any normal economic process, be anything other than winners. That is, >> they >> > turn to extra-economic means to solidify their place in a plutocracy. >> > >> > Eventually (at least previously), there is enough push back that the >> > plutocracy gets torn down a fair bit and the pendulum swings more >> > toward >> > the socialist end of the spectrum. Even at this point, we've always >> > been >> > significantly more capitalist than many economies, but certainly less >> > so >> > than at other points in our history. >> > >> > Gradually, however, regulation starts to get eroded in name of business >> > nimbleness and success and that seems to work for awhile until >> > consolidation of money leads to a consolidation of power and we move >> > back >> > toward a plutocracy. >> > >> > I'd like to think that there is a way to achieve a reasonable balance >> > and >> > make a stable environment where we have a lower level of regulation but >> do >> > not have a situation that tends toward plutocracy. I'm not sure if that >> is >> > really possible, though, the environment for business and government >> > may >> > just be too dynamic to find a stable state. Not really sure. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Judah >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:08 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Do think the ruling class in America today is "capitalists"? >> > > >> > > Open question to the group. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370067 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
