For me, the "brain damage" calls about Bush were bush league. And the "he
just attacked Iraq to get back about his dad".

Those were pretty bad assaults on his character and motives. Not anywhere
near as hateful line with what I have seen for Obama, but not something I
would let stand if said about me or mine.

I think both trivialized the huge commitment and loss of life inherent in
starting a war.

I never thought our reasons were correct to invade Iraq, but I always
believed that Bush himself felt it was in fact the right move for the
country, for our safety and for our future.

The fact that cynical people manipulated him to line their own pockets, and
for partisan and power games, I don't blame specifically on Bush. He made
some bad choices in who he trusted to give him truthful advice, but once he
trusted them, his personality required him to stay the course with them.

Maybe I am still naive, but I see the same problems with Obama's
presidency, mainly in the "attack anyone who questions us"
(whistleblowers), and in the showing the belly to all corporations on ever
topic. And of course the domestic spying.

I just cannot believe that Obama sees what we do, and how bad it is to us.

Or he knows something we don't, but I just don't believe that.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I'm curious what you would choose as the most awful/ridiculous attacks on
> each President. For Clinton, I'd go with Vince Foster. For Bush, I'd go
> with the National Guard attacks. For Obama, I'd go with the Kenyan
> Socialist, though that has a number of threads from birth certificate to
> New Black Panthers to Benghazi.
>
> Based on that, I'd say that the National Guard stuff is far weaker than the
> other two. What would you say were the most awful/ridiculous for each? I
> could easily be leaving things out of my memory.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> >
> > > It might just be that GWB was something of a lull in the increasing
> > > polarization/attack nature of Presidential politics.  I guess we'll see
> > in
> > > the next couple years.
> >
> >
> > I didn't see a lull. I feel like it's bee increasing each year. I think
> GWB
> > was attacked constantly on everything too. Same exact thing, just a
> > different party in office.
> >
> > I do think there is probably a tendency of people on the left to
> > underestimate the "level of disgustingness" of attacks from the left.
> Same
> > with people on the right.
> >
> > It would be interesting to see if that phenomenon is being studied by
> > someone who's research I would trust. I am definitely using an anecdotal
> > personal dataset - but one that is sourced from the same main stream
> media
> > we all have the same access to.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
>
>
> 

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