and their very first move should be to normalize relations with Egypt. By being a partner and a neighbor. Not a constant threat.
Which could open up their southern border. Which won't happen as long as they use that border to import arms. All success would flow from that demilitarized border. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > We are talking about this particular incident chain, not general terms, so > this seems like an attempt at threadjacking, but sure, I'll answer. > > If I was in their place, I'd take a page from the Israel book. They are > tiny, surrounded by a lot of hostile forces. But they have a great deal of > international sympathy and backers. I'd work to focus efforts on internal > self sufficiency while appealing broadly for aid. Strengthen the borders > and be prepared to defend them vigorously. Don't attack externally and try > to take more land before you even have a well-established region. Show a > commitment to building a strong local market, to build an oasis, even in > the shadow of very hostile neighbors. > > That's how you become attractive to the international community, how you > build your case for an established homeland and independence, how you > undermine the racist and awful arguments being lobbed every day from the > worst parts of Israeli society and government. That's how you win. > > Judah > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Eric Roberts < > [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > Judah...these missiles are not being fired for shits and giggles...they > are > > being fired because of Israeli oppression. The constant state of siege > on > > Gaza. The constant incursion of Israeli settlers...plus many many other > > reasons. Netenyahu even came out and said that he doesn't support a 2 > > state > > solution. His party never has. As long as Israel keeps encroaching on > > Palestininan territory and the human rights of the Palestinian > people...the > > missiles will continue to come. They have violated every agreement that > > has > > brought peace. If you were in the Palestinian's shoes...what would you > do? > > Just give up and let Israel steamroll you? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:25 AM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Slaughter of civilians by Israel... > > > > > > I get what you and Scott are saying, but what is Israel supposed to do? > > They are having a rather large number of missiles fired at them. Some of > > them to parts of Israel that no one thought they could reach. A ground > > force > > would be a huge escalation and the potential house to house combat could > > easily end up with as many civilians killed as air assault, though Hamas > > weapons might do more of the killing in that case. And there would be a > > great many more Israeli deaths. > > > > I absolutely do not believe that the aerial assault is the right thing to > > do > > on the part of Israel. But I also don't see what other options they have > at > > this point. They should have gone down a very different political route > > well > > before this round of escalation, but they didn't. I fault them for that. > > But > > at this point, they are being attacked and I don't see a way to respond > > that > > does not incur significant civilian casualties because the legitimate > > targets (the ones firing the missiles) are mixed into a dense civilian > > population. > > > > Short of a cease fire that both sides can agree to, this is just going to > > play out as a tragedy on both sides. > > > > Judah > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Vivec <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > ᧠> > > Yeah. > > > > > > After demolishing buildings, slaughtering entire families...they call > > > a cease fire. > > > > > > right. > > > > > > I stand by my view that it should never have happened in the first > place. > > > Use of force on that scale,and with so many civilian casualties should > > > never be justified. > > > > > > On 15 July 2014 10:06, LRS Scout <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > > > > > So over night the Israelis took part in a cease fire organized by > > Egypt. > > > > > > > > Hamas chose not to take part and fired 50 additional missiles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
