Assaulting a child is a entirely different story.
On 9/9/2014 8:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later dropped. > He was then charged with aggravated assault. > > I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you guys think > they were also 'looking for trouble'? > On Sep 9, 2014 8:13 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence. I >> don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like she >> was >> able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse what he >> did...both should have assault charges filed. Unless it can be shown that >> she was purely defending herself...that is the standard that police use. >> If >> both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to sort it >> out. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: RE: Ray Rice >> >> >> Days... >> On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-no >>> t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Ray Rice >>> >>> >>> No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop >>> inferring from my remarks. >>> >>> I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I >>> would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a >>> stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the >> stranger >> would be shot. >>> For >>> instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. >>> I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting >> someone. >>> She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow her >>> to kill me? >>> >>> But, concerning dressing provocatively: didn't you say you have >>> daughters, Scott? >>> Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, >>> why not? >>> >>> >>> On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>>> Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked his >>> fiance >>>> unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way. >>>> >>>> As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of >>>> proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend >>>> himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, >>>> and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees >> fit, right? >>>> I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 'she >>>> was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened and in >>>> the process condoning his actions. Just like when people say, 'look >>>> at how >>> she >>>> was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth >>>> <[email protected] >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow a >>>>> man >>> the >>>>> right to rape her. >>>>> >>>>> However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to >>>>> defend himself. >>>>> >>>>> In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her to >>>>> defend herself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble." >>>>>>> >>>>>> When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed >>>>>> provocatively? >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372306 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
