Why does everyone keep assuming that private schools are going to be
religious? There are schools out there that are private and have nothing
to do with religion.

~~
Stephenie 


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:10 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ...


Must be nice to be rich Jon. Vouchers are just a back handed way to
subsidize religious schools whose educational quality, with a few
exceptions, are not all that great.

Private schools do not have to take in all children. Public schools do.
Right now if a child is in need of special ed, there are very few
private schools that are willing to accept that kid. So much for a
choice.

If private schools want government funding then they should have to
operate under the same rules. Otherwise no money should be going to
support private schools.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Really, and if there isn't a choice between private
> schools. For example
> the
> > vast majority of the private schools receiving vouchers in
> Cleveland were
> > religious institutions. To me that still violates the establishment
> clause.
> > Additionally secular private schools charge far above what
> the vouchers
> pay
> > for. The rest have to come out of the parents pockets. Some
> choice. So far
> > the program seems to be an attempt to publicly subsidize
> private religious
> > education.
> 
> I say let the parents decide where to send their kids. If they think 
> religion is more important to their kids future career than some other

> discipline, let them reap what they sow.
> 
> 
> > Secondly, if private schools were to operate under the
> exact same rules as
> > the public schools do, or at the very least in terms of
> accepting all
> > children regardless of handicap etc. then their performance
> would be very
> > close to public schools. for instance I did an analysis in
> grad school of
> > differences between public and private schools in term of academic 
> > performance on the NORC data. When controlling for parental
> involvement,
> all
> > differences between public and private schools disappeared
> in terms of
> > academic achievement. In other words it is other factors
> rather than the
> > myth that private schools are intrinsically better that account for
> improved
> > school performance.
> 
> That just it! They do not have to operate under the same
> exact rules. They
> can even impose entrance tests to keep out the morons.
> 
> > As for the system being broken, that's another myth that's
> been foisted on
> > the public by politicians. While the US in not at the top
> in k-12, it is
> > certainly not at the bottom, (those countries without a
> public school
> system
> > seem to be over represented at the bottom of the list).
> Moreover this
> > country has made some very notable improvements over the
> last 20 years.
> 
>  When was the last time you were in a high school? It wasn't
> too long ago
> that I was a high school student, and I can tell you, very 
> little actual
> learning goes on in school these days.
> 
> jon
> 
> 

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