In the Cleveland case for instance, over 90% of the private schools accepting vouchers are nonsecular. Its a pretty good bet then that they are religious schools.
larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > > > Why does everyone keep assuming that private schools are going to be > religious? There are schools out there that are private and > have nothing > to do with religion. > > ~~ > Stephenie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:10 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > > > Must be nice to be rich Jon. Vouchers are just a back handed way to > subsidize religious schools whose educational quality, with a few > exceptions, are not all that great. > > Private schools do not have to take in all children. Public > schools do. > Right now if a child is in need of special ed, there are very few > private schools that are willing to accept that kid. So much for a > choice. > > If private schools want government funding then they should have to > operate under the same rules. Otherwise no money should be going to > support private schools. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:05 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Really, and if there isn't a choice between private > > schools. For example > > the > > > vast majority of the private schools receiving vouchers in > > Cleveland were > > > religious institutions. To me that still violates the > establishment > > clause. > > > Additionally secular private schools charge far above what > > the vouchers > > pay > > > for. The rest have to come out of the parents pockets. Some > > choice. So far > > > the program seems to be an attempt to publicly subsidize > > private religious > > > education. > > > > I say let the parents decide where to send their kids. If > they think > > religion is more important to their kids future career than > some other > > > discipline, let them reap what they sow. > > > > > > > Secondly, if private schools were to operate under the > > exact same rules as > > > the public schools do, or at the very least in terms of > > accepting all > > > children regardless of handicap etc. then their performance > > would be very > > > close to public schools. for instance I did an analysis in > > grad school of > > > differences between public and private schools in term of > academic > > > performance on the NORC data. When controlling for parental > > involvement, > > all > > > differences between public and private schools disappeared > > in terms of > > > academic achievement. In other words it is other factors > > rather than the > > > myth that private schools are intrinsically better that > account for > > improved > > > school performance. > > > > That just it! They do not have to operate under the same > > exact rules. They > > can even impose entrance tests to keep out the morons. > > > > > As for the system being broken, that's another myth that's > > been foisted on > > > the public by politicians. While the US in not at the top > > in k-12, it is > > > certainly not at the bottom, (those countries without a > > public school > > system > > > seem to be over represented at the bottom of the list). > > Moreover this > > > country has made some very notable improvements over the > > last 20 years. > > > > When was the last time you were in a high school? It wasn't > > too long ago > > that I was a high school student, and I can tell you, very > > little actual > > learning goes on in school these days. > > > > jon > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
