:) thats right who cares about someone elses kids, they got "stuck" with a kid with disabilities lets just do what they used to do back in the day send them to a facility to live out their lives. Screw trying to give them an education.
I grew up in a poorish family and i know how it is, but still if you care enough about society to know that we have to try our best for all kids so the next generation can be better then us and the generations before Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > How is educating "challenged" kids, better for my kids education? > > Calling me rich? How very liberal of you...it wont get you anywhere with me > though. Growing up in a mobile home in the middle of a tobacco field in > North Carolina, we were so poor that I once wore the same pair of shoes for > two entire years, before they fell apart. I couldn't even go to school. A > relative in another state finally heard about it and sent me some shoes... > Robert Byrd had nothing on me :) > > jon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:10 PM > Subject: RE: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > > > > Must be nice to be rich Jon. Vouchers are just a back handed way to > > subsidize religious schools whose educational quality, with a few > > exceptions, are not all that great. > > > > Private schools do not have to take in all children. Public schools do. > > Right now if a child is in need of special ed, there are very few private > > schools that are willing to accept that kid. So much for a choice. > > > > If private schools want government funding then they should have to > operate > > under the same rules. Otherwise no money should be going to support > private > > schools. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:05 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ... > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Really, and if there isn't a choice between private > > > schools. For example > > > the > > > > vast majority of the private schools receiving vouchers in > > > Cleveland were > > > > religious institutions. To me that still violates the establishment > > > clause. > > > > Additionally secular private schools charge far above what > > > the vouchers > > > pay > > > > for. The rest have to come out of the parents pockets. Some > > > choice. So far > > > > the program seems to be an attempt to publicly subsidize > > > private religious > > > > education. > > > > > > I say let the parents decide where to send their kids. If they think > > > religion is more important to their kids future career than some other > > > discipline, let them reap what they sow. > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, if private schools were to operate under the > > > exact same rules as > > > > the public schools do, or at the very least in terms of > > > accepting all > > > > children regardless of handicap etc. then their performance > > > would be very > > > > close to public schools. for instance I did an analysis in > > > grad school of > > > > differences between public and private schools in term of academic > > > > performance on the NORC data. When controlling for parental > > > involvement, > > > all > > > > differences between public and private schools disappeared > > > in terms of > > > > academic achievement. In other words it is other factors > > > rather than the > > > > myth that private schools are intrinsically better that account for > > > improved > > > > school performance. > > > > > > That just it! They do not have to operate under the same > > > exact rules. They > > > can even impose entrance tests to keep out the morons. > > > > > > > As for the system being broken, that's another myth that's > > > been foisted on > > > > the public by politicians. While the US in not at the top > > > in k-12, it is > > > > certainly not at the bottom, (those countries without a > > > public school > > > system > > > > seem to be over represented at the bottom of the list). > > > Moreover this > > > > country has made some very notable improvements over the > > > last 20 years. > > > > > > When was the last time you were in a high school? It wasn't > > > too long ago > > > that I was a high school student, and I can tell you, very > > > little actual > > > learning goes on in school these days. > > > > > > jon > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
