Bill Wheatley
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Interesting
> hm
> comments inline
>
>
> > We, the undersigned, are sick and tired of our hard-earned tax
> > dollars being spent on liberal programs which have contributed much
> > to the ruination of this country. We are NOT white supremacists. We
> > have no problems and no issues with and harbor no resentment towards
> > law-abiding, contributing members of other races. We do have a
> > problem with the following:
> >
> > 1. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support women who
> > choose to
> > have illegitimate children. With the SECOND illegitimate child, and
> > all subsequent
> > children, they will get no further financial benefit. They will be
> > offered free birth
> > control, or free voluntary sterilization, but it will be made clear
> > to them that if
> > they continue to procreate, there will be no financial gain.
>
> so basically the problem isn't social benefits, its ILLEGITIMATE children.
> Quite frankly, there is nothing intrinscially wrong or costly about
> illegitimate children - whats costly is the mother. If this petition was
not
> made by someone who wants to impose his/her morality on others the word
> illegitimate wouldnt' be in here in the first place.
>
> Not every illegitimate child is a tax burden.
>
> Besides, what should we do? Let all the "ILLEGITIMATE" children starve to
> death because their mother didn't use birth control?
WEll it appears people who dont learn to better themselves keep getting
themselves knocked up. and dont know how to take care of themselves so let
them know if you're not going to try to better yousrelf or sit on your ass
and say how tough life is fine find a way to feed your kid without the govt
paying for you.
>
> > 2. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support illegal
> > aliens. We demand
> > that the current policy of amnesty be rescinded, and that no further
> > proposal
> > shall ever be brought before either House.
>
> We should become Xenophobes?
>
> Actually, for the most part I agree with this -
>
wtf are you talking about? its about The 1 word ILLEGAL they are illegal
aliens
they should have theirs asses throw back across their country borders until
they KNOW how to
do it the right way.
Nothing Xenophobic about obeying the law
>
> > 3. We demand to have a lobby, or some sort of "non-profit"
> > organization similar
> > to the NAACP, designed to protect us against reverse discrimination.
>
> DOH, make one.
> The NAACP is funded by private citizens. If you feel you need an
> organization to protect your interests, you just need to create it.
>
>
> > 4. We demand that our government stop wasting our tax dollars on
> > printing
> > pamphlets in FOREIGN languages. Our language is English.
>
> Ah, so we ARE going to become Xenophobes.
>
I dont really have trouble with that one
> > 5. We demand that a prerequisite for becoming a citizen is the
> > commitment to
> > learn to speak, if not read, the English language. If you want to
> > speak your
> > native language at home, and preserve and teach that language to your
> > children
> > that's wonderful. But you must also learn to have at least a
> > rudimentary
> > command of the English language to become a citizen. We prefer that
> > our
> > government print English Proficiency tests for prospective citizens
> > instead of
> > foreign language pamphlets.
>
>
> WTF do they care if someone speaks English or not? What difference does
> that make?
>
Wanting to come live in the US means theres something you want in the US.
Which means if you want to succeed you should endevaour to learn the
langauage of the people in the country (majority)
In south florida Spanish speaking people are catching up with the # of
english speaking but THEY get more access to things that
english speaking people dont. well maybe not more access but they get the
rules bend in their favor, get all sorts of breaks etc etc.
As previous points i've made Show me spain or france where they have a
portion of the country with a good sized community of English speaking
american nationals and then show me laws in the books just for those said
americas.
Its ok though let them not learn english doesnt really matter to me i just
find it hilarious you come to a country and dont even care to learn its
language.
>
> > 6. We demand a TOTAL reform of the immigration laws and policies. We
> > demand
> > that no more immigrants from known terrorist states be granted
> > student visas,
> > or visas of ANY kind until things are more under control in this
> > country.
>
> No argument. But how exactly?
>
>
> > 7. We demand that our public school students be taught AMERICAN
> > history,
> > in addition to black history.
>
> This is bizarre - our students ARE taught american history. Black
Americans
> are part of American History. D
>
Yea whoever put that is a moron
>
> > 8. We demand that our leaders work for tort reform, so that those in
> > our medical
> > profession can continue to practice as well as afford their
> > malpractice
> > insurance.
>
> go for socialized medicine - then there will be no malpractice insurance.
>
>
> > 9. We demand that a person must PROVE a real disability in order to
> > be granted
> > government aid. We do not agree that drug addiction or alcoholism
> > constitutes
> > a disability, but a weakness in character and a choice in life that
> > WE should not
> > have to support
>
> Since there is evidence to show that addiction has a genetic component
they
> can disagree to all the science in the world but they are still ignorant.
>
So we can probably make the case stupidity is genetic :) are you saying
thats an addiction too?
Being genetically predisposed to drink doesnt pick up the drink and make you
drink it.
Upbringing and personal strength and that strength of friends and family is
what gets you over the hump.
I might even consider it a TEMPORARY disability but i wouldnt say its a
PERMANANT one.
>
>
> > 10. We demand that we be given the same chance to speak our mind as
> > other
> > races are granted, without be branded as a "racist".
>
> You can say whatever you want, and I can call you a racist if I want.
>
lol sure, but spouting irrational things does alot for how others view you
:)
but who cares. I think i would be offended if anyone called me a racist lol
i dont know what my brother would say he would probably laugh. Lol actually
one guy called me a raciset
when he saw me bald after a little disagreement. And i had to ask him how is
my brother in law blacker then the ace of spads and he was my best man at my
wedding lol. Of course its all a ploy :)
>
>
> > 11. We demand the abolition of so-called "hate crimes". When a person
> > of color
> > is murdered by a Caucasian, it is branded as a hate crime, but the
> > reverse is
> > not given the same consideration. ANY CRIME IS A HATE CRIME.
>
> Bullshit. If someone kills me BECAUSE i am a jew, thats a hate crime.
>
lol yea but what about if someone kills you cause you're white?
or if someone kills you cause you're rich
Or someone is paid to kill you
its all a crime of HATE.
>
>
> > 12. We demand a return to common sense leadership in Washington. If
> > that
> > takes the creation of a third political party, so be it.
>
> This is really, really specific, isn't it.
>
>
>
> > 13. We demand that our leaders create a healthcare system for us
> > that are equal to
> > their healthcare benefits. If they do not implement this, then they
> > should have to
> > be burdened with the same type of healthcare that we do, so that they
> > will
> > TRULY understand what the masses go through when they experience an
> illness.
>
> yes, socialzed medicine.
>
> > 14. We demand an END to all minority set-asides for small
> > businessmen.
>
> > 15. We demand a simplification of the tax code and a LOW flat tax.
> > The elderly
> > work their entire lives and have saved to try and support themselves
> > WITHOUT
> > government help, and they are still heavily taxed, no matter where
> > they put
> > their money.
>
> I am totally against a flat tax. I am going to get taxed the same as the
> welfare mother with the ILLEGITIMATE children?
>
>
> > 16. We demand a mandatory age at which no person should have to pay
> > school taxes. The elderly have paid their share, and they need their
> > money
> > to pay for their medical bills.
>
>
> > 17. We demand that the salaries and perks of our elected leaders be
> > reformed to
> > be more in keeping with what the average citizen makes. We demand
> > that the
> > salaries of our REALLY important citizens, such as police, firemen,
> > school-
> > teachers, be raised to a livable wage,
> >
>
>
>
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