That works as Jews were never called honky. Kikes, hymies, and worse, but we've never 
been 'lumped' into the honky category. That always amused me in a sick way. Those who 
hate us know the difference. 


> honky
> 
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> EDIETS.COM
> 954.360.9022 X159
> ICQ 417645
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Interesting
> 
> 
> > Well, there in lay the issues of genetics and culture. Someone can be a
> Jew because their mother is Jewish or because they have converted (a long
> and arduous process). In most cases, a Jew is genetic/cultural which means
> they have Mediterranean genes. How much all depends on how many relatives
> they have who are Jewish because of conversion.
> > My pale skin and red hair says that I have some genes that are from a
> convert in my family tree somewhere (red hair is very prominent in many
> Jews). The skin tone and related features of some of my relatives speaks to
> the Mediterranean genes.
> > And yes, there are Jews with no Mediterranean genes, though its very rare
> and usually due to being a first or second generation convert. In Judaism a
> convert has the same status as someone who was born a Jew so they can marry
> as any other Jew (I have a friend who converted and married into a well
> placed Chasidish family). As conversion is rather rare, the chances of 2
> converts marrying is rare and the chances of their children marrying
> converts or children of 2 converts is even rarer.
> > Now that I've defined Jews and how they are Mediterranean, maybe you can
> define what a Caucasian is. :)
> >
> >
> > > i know a few caucasian jews?
> > >
> > > you werent implying all jews were mediterranean were ya? Unless i'm
> mistaken
> > > somewhere along the line
> > >
> > > Bill Wheatley
> > > Senior Database Developer
> > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > > EDIETS.COM
> > > 954.360.9022 X159
> > > ICQ 417645
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Interesting
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow. I actually agree with almost everything that's printed below. And
> I'm
> > > not even really Caucasian (As a Jew, I'm Mediterranean and while it
> doesn't
> > > show in me, it does show quite well in my son, my brother and 2 of his 3
> > > sons).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Since we were talkinga bout it last night the wife sent me this i
> havent
> > > determined if its a gag or someones really doing this ;)
> > > > > Though i will say i believe in some of the things in here like umm
> if
> > > you come to the US at least TRY to learn english etc lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A petition for fair and equal rights for Caucasians
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This petition is now active, please go to:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/1942/petition.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Sign the petition and forward it to everyone you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > We, the undersigned, are sick and tired of our hard-earned tax
> > > > > dollars being spent on liberal programs which have contributed much
> > > > > to the ruination of this country. We are NOT white supremacists. We
> > > > > have no problems and no issues with and harbor no resentment towards
> > > > > law-abiding, contributing members of other races. We do have a
> > > > > problem with the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support women who
> > > > > choose to
> > > > > have illegitimate children. With the SECOND illegitimate child, and
> > > > > all subsequent
> > > > > children, they will get no further financial benefit. They will be
> > > > > offered free birth
> > > > > control, or free voluntary sterilization, but it will be made clear
> > > > > to them that if
> > > > > they continue to procreate, there will be no financial gain.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support illegal
> > > > > aliens. We demand
> > > > > that the current policy of amnesty be rescinded, and that no further
> > > > > proposal
> > > > > shall ever be brought before either House.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. We demand to have a lobby, or some sort of "non-profit"
> > > > > organization similar
> > > > > to the NAACP, designed to protect us against reverse discrimination.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. We demand that our government stop wasting our tax dollars on
> > > > > printing
> > > > > pamphlets in FOREIGN languages. Our language is English.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5. We demand that a prerequisite for becoming a citizen is the
> > > > > commitment to
> > > > > learn to speak, if not read, the English language. If you want to
> > > > > speak your
> > > > > native language at home, and preserve and teach that language to
> your
> > > > > children
> > > > > that's wonderful. But you must also learn to have at least a
> > > > > rudimentary
> > > > > command of the English language to become a citizen. We prefer that
> > > > > our
> > > > > government print English Proficiency tests for prospective citizens
> > > > > instead of
> > > > > foreign language pamphlets.
> > > > >
> > > > > 6. We demand a TOTAL reform of the immigration laws and policies. We
> > > > > demand
> > > > > that no more immigrants from known terrorist states be granted
> > > > > student visas,
> > > > > or visas of ANY kind until things are more under control in this
> > > > > country.
> > > > >
> > > > > 7. We demand that our public school students be taught AMERICAN
> > > > > history,
> > > > > in addition to black history.
> > > > >
> > > > > 8. We demand that our leaders work for tort reform, so that those in
> > > > > our medical
> > > > > profession can continue to practice as well as afford their
> > > > > malpractice
> > > > > insurance.
> > > > >
> > > > > 9. We demand that a person must PROVE a real disability in order to
> > > > > be granted
> > > > > government aid. We do not agree that drug addiction or alcoholism
> > > > > constitutes
> > > > > a disability, but a weakness in character and a choice in life that
> > > > > WE should not
> > > > > have to support
> > > > >
> > > > > 10. We demand that we be given the same chance to speak our mind as
> > > > > other
> > > > > races are granted, without be branded as a "racist".
> > > > >
> > > > > 11. We demand the abolition of so-called "hate crimes". When a
> person
> > > > > of color
> > > > > is murdered by a Caucasian, it is branded as a hate crime, but the
> > > > > reverse is
> > > > > not given the same consideration. ANY CRIME IS A HATE CRIME.
> > > > >
> > > > > 12. We demand a return to common sense leadership in Washington. If
> > > > > that
> > > > > takes the creation of a third political party, so be it.
> > > > >
> > > > > 13. We demand that our leaders create a healthcare system for us
> > > > > that are equal to
> > > > > their healthcare benefits. If they do not implement this, then they
> > > > > should have to
> > > > > be burdened with the same type of healthcare that we do, so that
> they
> > > > > will
> > > > > TRULY understand what the masses go through when they experience an
> > > > > illness.
> > > > >
> > > > > 14. We demand an END to all minority set-asides for small
> > > > > businessmen.
> > > > >
> > > > > 15. We demand a simplification of the tax code and a LOW flat tax.
> > > > > The elderly
> > > > > work their entire lives and have saved to try and support themselves
> > > > > WITHOUT
> > > > > government help, and they are still heavily taxed, no matter where
> > > > > they put
> > > > > their money.
> > > > >
> > > > > 16. We demand a mandatory age at which no person should have to pay
> > > > > school taxes. The elderly have paid their share, and they need their
> > > > > money
> > > > > to pay for their medical bills.
> > > > >
> > > > > 17. We demand that the salaries and perks of our elected leaders be
> > > > > reformed to
> > > > > be more in keeping with what the average citizen makes. We demand
> > > > > that the
> > > > > salaries of our REALLY important citizens, such as police, firemen,
> > > > > school-
> > > > > teachers, be raised to a livable wage,
> > > > >
> > > > > WE ENCOURAGE ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS OF THE CAUCASIAN RACE TO STAND UP
> > > > > AND BE COUNTED BY PUTTING YOUR SIGNATURE ON THE AFOREMENTIONED
> > > > > DOCUMENT.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/caucasiancaucus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AMERICA: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Wheatley
> > > > > Senior Database Developer
> > > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > > > > EDIETS.COM
> > > > > 954.360.9022 X159
> > > > > ICQ 417645
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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