Actually, throughout the centuries, Jewish women in Europe were raped. Thus the introduction of a lot of European genetic characteristics into the Jewish population. (It wasn't conversions that did it.)
At 11:03 AM 7/9/02, you wrote: >Well, there in lay the issues of genetics and culture. Someone can be a >Jew because their mother is Jewish or because they have converted (a long >and arduous process). In most cases, a Jew is genetic/cultural which means >they have Mediterranean genes. How much all depends on how many relatives >they have who are Jewish because of conversion. >My pale skin and red hair says that I have some genes that are from a >convert in my family tree somewhere (red hair is very prominent in many >Jews). The skin tone and related features of some of my relatives speaks >to the Mediterranean genes. >And yes, there are Jews with no Mediterranean genes, though its very rare >and usually due to being a first or second generation convert. In Judaism >a convert has the same status as someone who was born a Jew so they can >marry as any other Jew (I have a friend who converted and married into a >well placed Chasidish family). As conversion is rather rare, the chances >of 2 converts marrying is rare and the chances of their children marrying >converts or children of 2 converts is even rarer. >Now that I've defined Jews and how they are Mediterranean, maybe you can >define what a Caucasian is. :) > > > > i know a few caucasian jews? > > > > you werent implying all jews were mediterranean were ya? Unless i'm > mistaken > > somewhere along the line > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Interesting > > > > > > > Wow. I actually agree with almost everything that's printed below. > And I'm > > not even really Caucasian (As a Jew, I'm Mediterranean and while it doesn't > > show in me, it does show quite well in my son, my brother and 2 of his 3 > > sons). > > > > > > > > > > Since we were talkinga bout it last night the wife sent me this i > havent > > determined if its a gag or someones really doing this ;) > > > > Though i will say i believe in some of the things in here like umm if > > you come to the US at least TRY to learn english etc lol > > > > > > > > > > > > A petition for fair and equal rights for Caucasians > > > > > > > > > > > > This petition is now active, please go to: > > > > > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/1942/petition.html > > > > > > > > Sign the petition and forward it to everyone you know. > > > > > > > > We, the undersigned, are sick and tired of our hard-earned tax > > > > dollars being spent on liberal programs which have contributed much > > > > to the ruination of this country. We are NOT white supremacists. We > > > > have no problems and no issues with and harbor no resentment towards > > > > law-abiding, contributing members of other races. We do have a > > > > problem with the following: > > > > > > > > 1. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support women who > > > > choose to > > > > have illegitimate children. With the SECOND illegitimate child, and > > > > all subsequent > > > > children, they will get no further financial benefit. They will be > > > > offered free birth > > > > control, or free voluntary sterilization, but it will be made clear > > > > to them that if > > > > they continue to procreate, there will be no financial gain. > > > > > > > > 2. We no longer agree to have our taxes spent to support illegal > > > > aliens. We demand > > > > that the current policy of amnesty be rescinded, and that no further > > > > proposal > > > > shall ever be brought before either House. > > > > > > > > 3. We demand to have a lobby, or some sort of "non-profit" > > > > organization similar > > > > to the NAACP, designed to protect us against reverse discrimination. > > > > > > > > 4. We demand that our government stop wasting our tax dollars on > > > > printing > > > > pamphlets in FOREIGN languages. Our language is English. > > > > > > > > 5. We demand that a prerequisite for becoming a citizen is the > > > > commitment to > > > > learn to speak, if not read, the English language. If you want to > > > > speak your > > > > native language at home, and preserve and teach that language to your > > > > children > > > > that's wonderful. But you must also learn to have at least a > > > > rudimentary > > > > command of the English language to become a citizen. We prefer that > > > > our > > > > government print English Proficiency tests for prospective citizens > > > > instead of > > > > foreign language pamphlets. > > > > > > > > 6. We demand a TOTAL reform of the immigration laws and policies. We > > > > demand > > > > that no more immigrants from known terrorist states be granted > > > > student visas, > > > > or visas of ANY kind until things are more under control in this > > > > country. > > > > > > > > 7. We demand that our public school students be taught AMERICAN > > > > history, > > > > in addition to black history. > > > > > > > > 8. We demand that our leaders work for tort reform, so that those in > > > > our medical > > > > profession can continue to practice as well as afford their > > > > malpractice > > > > insurance. > > > > > > > > 9. We demand that a person must PROVE a real disability in order to > > > > be granted > > > > government aid. We do not agree that drug addiction or alcoholism > > > > constitutes > > > > a disability, but a weakness in character and a choice in life that > > > > WE should not > > > > have to support > > > > > > > > 10. We demand that we be given the same chance to speak our mind as > > > > other > > > > races are granted, without be branded as a "racist". > > > > > > > > 11. We demand the abolition of so-called "hate crimes". When a person > > > > of color > > > > is murdered by a Caucasian, it is branded as a hate crime, but the > > > > reverse is > > > > not given the same consideration. ANY CRIME IS A HATE CRIME. > > > > > > > > 12. We demand a return to common sense leadership in Washington. If > > > > that > > > > takes the creation of a third political party, so be it. > > > > > > > > 13. We demand that our leaders create a healthcare system for us > > > > that are equal to > > > > their healthcare benefits. If they do not implement this, then they > > > > should have to > > > > be burdened with the same type of healthcare that we do, so that they > > > > will > > > > TRULY understand what the masses go through when they experience an > > > > illness. > > > > > > > > 14. We demand an END to all minority set-asides for small > > > > businessmen. > > > > > > > > 15. We demand a simplification of the tax code and a LOW flat tax. > > > > The elderly > > > > work their entire lives and have saved to try and support themselves > > > > WITHOUT > > > > government help, and they are still heavily taxed, no matter where > > > > they put > > > > their money. > > > > > > > > 16. We demand a mandatory age at which no person should have to pay > > > > school taxes. The elderly have paid their share, and they need their > > > > money > > > > to pay for their medical bills. > > > > > > > > 17. We demand that the salaries and perks of our elected leaders be > > > > reformed to > > > > be more in keeping with what the average citizen makes. We demand > > > > that the > > > > salaries of our REALLY important citizens, such as police, firemen, > > > > school- > > > > teachers, be raised to a livable wage, > > > > > > > > WE ENCOURAGE ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS OF THE CAUCASIAN RACE TO STAND UP > > > > AND BE COUNTED BY PUTTING YOUR SIGNATURE ON THE AFOREMENTIONED > > > > DOCUMENT. > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/caucasiancaucus > > > > > > > > > > > > AMERICA: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > > Senior Database Developer > > > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > > EDIETS.COM > > > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > > > ICQ 417645 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. 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