Tim, >From what I remember of my basic training and RIC, worn is appropriate.
larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:14 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Welcome to the Junta > > > he thinks the part, when he was worn in > > Should have read: > > He thinks the part when he was sworn in > > > Tim Heald > Developer > Schoollink, Inc. > 910.223.2116 x 122 > > > http://www.schoollink.net > Providing technology solutions for educators > > Fusebox Advisory Committee > http://www.fusebox.org > > Fayetteville ColdFusion User Group > http://www.fcfug.org > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:02 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > Just got back to my box after some rather pressing server work. > > Interesting > > topic. > > > > Anyone care to guess which side I come down on? > > > > Ok here is what I know. You average 11b (infantryman) has > never read the > > constitution. He doesn't know what Posse Comitatus, and > most likely he > > doesn't care. he thinks the part, when he was worn in, to follow > > the orders > > of the president and the officers appointed over him, is much > > more important > > than protect and defend the constitution of the united states. > > > > Then take your 11a (infantry branch officer) I have heard > officers talk > > with such disdain for the American people, that I wouldn't > want one in > > charge of a day care, much less the day to day operation of > our nation. > > > > As an infantryman I had a well defined role when I first joined > > up. To meet > > with and destroy the enemy. That is to kill people. Not > arrest them, not > > talk to them. Just to kill them. While I was in I took > part in "police" > > and "humanitarian" actions. These have no place in the > united states army. > > You can't give some 18 year old kid that kind of power and expect > > him not to > > abuse it. When you train a killer you are doing something > very different > > then training a police officer. > > > > Posse Comitatus is there for a reason. Should it be over turned. > > or ignored > > then I think we would have no recourse, no ability to deny, that > > our nations > > government has escaped the boundaries originally intended by the > > founders of > > this nation. > > > > Scary stuff. > > > > Hey ask me again why I am against gun registration :) > > > > Tim Heald > > Developer > > Schoollink, Inc. > > 910.223.2116 x 122 > > > > > > http://www.schoollink.net > > Providing technology solutions for educators > > > > Fusebox Advisory Committee > > http://www.fusebox.org > > > > Fayetteville ColdFusion User Group > > http://www.fcfug.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:03 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > It was just the National Guard, with unloaded weapons, > and a curfew in > > > which the police did not even deal with. > > > > > > I am waiting for the next riot, in Inglewood... > > > > > > At 03:51 PM 7/22/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > >I would suspect because martial law is a major thing and it > > would turn us > > > >into a Police state and i dont know about you i'm not wanting > > any of that > > > >and i'm afraid i wouldnt be voting for anyone that did that > > > without a good > > > >reason. > > > > > > > >I think martial law was declared in LA back in the riots? But it > > > might not > > > >have been, just the NG and the curfew etc > > > > > > > >Bill Wheatley > > > >Senior Database Developer > > > >Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > >EDIETS.COM > > > >954.360.9022 X159 > > > >ICQ 417645 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:42 PM > > > >Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because our president is the Commander in Chief, > that's why. That is > > > > > way too much power in one man. > > > > > I also have a sneaking suspicion the FOIA does not apply to > > > > > the military, and if so, I'd bet that is the whole point here. > > > > > > > > > > If martial law allows soldiers to do whatever they want, > > then why not > > > > > just declare martial law if the FBI,CIA,ATF, etc, do > not have enough > > > > > resources to handle the terrorist threat? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jon > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 22, 2002, 3:25:11 PM, you wrote: > > > > > BW> What is scary about it? IF there is a state of martial > > > law declared > > > >the > > > > > BW> military can do just that. > > > > > > > > > > BW> But I don't see why letting the military ACT as law > > enforcement at > > > >times is > > > > > BW> scary besides the fact they are trained as > soldiers and not law > > > >enforcement, > > > > > BW> unless they only used MP's or SP's which I doubt. Its not > > > saying using > > > >the > > > > > BW> military in police actions would mean its the same as > > martial law > > > >where you > > > > > BW> loose all your rights and guarantees. I'm sure you would > > > still have > > > >the same > > > > > BW> protections and hell if they screw up you can sue the > > > army ;) well you > > > >could > > > > > BW> try. > > > > > BW> Using a broken keyboard for a bettter tomorrow :P > > > > > BW> Bill Wheatley > > > > > BW> Senior Database Developer > > > > > BW> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > > > BW> EDIETS.COM > > > > > BW> 954.360.9022 X159 > > > > > BW> ICQ 417645 > > > > > BW> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > BW> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > BW> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > BW> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:18 PM > > > > > BW> Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Scary. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Ridge: Consider Using Military To Enforce Law > Domestically > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > WASHINGTON - Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said > > > Sunday that > > > >the > > > > > BW> threat of > > > > > >> > terrorism may force government planners > > > > > >> > to consider using the military for domestic law > > enforcement, now > > > >largely > > > > > >> > prohibited by federal law. > > > > > >> > President Bush has called on Congress to thoroughly > > > review the law > > > > > BW> banning the > > > > > >> > Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines from > > > > > >> > participating in arrests, searches, seizure of > > evidence and other > > > >police > > > > > >> > activity on U.S. soil. The Coast Guard and > > > > > >> > National Guard troops under control of state governors > > > are excluded > > > >from > > > > > BW> the > > > > > >> > Reconstruction-era law, known as the > > > > > >> > ``Posse Comitatus Act.'' > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > http://news.tbo.com/news/MGA83ZUSX3D.html > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
