Because hilter had that great idea of gun registration and look where it got everyone :)
Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Welcome to the Junta > Just got back to my box after some rather pressing server work. Interesting > topic. > > Anyone care to guess which side I come down on? > > Ok here is what I know. You average 11b (infantryman) has never read the > constitution. He doesn't know what Posse Comitatus, and most likely he > doesn't care. he thinks the part, when he was worn in, to follow the orders > of the president and the officers appointed over him, is much more important > than protect and defend the constitution of the united states. > > Then take your 11a (infantry branch officer) I have heard officers talk > with such disdain for the American people, that I wouldn't want one in > charge of a day care, much less the day to day operation of our nation. > > As an infantryman I had a well defined role when I first joined up. To meet > with and destroy the enemy. That is to kill people. Not arrest them, not > talk to them. Just to kill them. While I was in I took part in "police" > and "humanitarian" actions. These have no place in the united states army. > You can't give some 18 year old kid that kind of power and expect him not to > abuse it. When you train a killer you are doing something very different > then training a police officer. > > Posse Comitatus is there for a reason. Should it be over turned. or ignored > then I think we would have no recourse, no ability to deny, that our nations > government has escaped the boundaries originally intended by the founders of > this nation. > > Scary stuff. > > Hey ask me again why I am against gun registration :) > > Tim Heald > Developer > Schoollink, Inc. > 910.223.2116 x 122 > > > http://www.schoollink.net > Providing technology solutions for educators > > Fusebox Advisory Committee > http://www.fusebox.org > > Fayetteville ColdFusion User Group > http://www.fcfug.org > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:03 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > It was just the National Guard, with unloaded weapons, and a curfew in > > which the police did not even deal with. > > > > I am waiting for the next riot, in Inglewood... > > > > At 03:51 PM 7/22/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > >I would suspect because martial law is a major thing and it would turn us > > >into a Police state and i dont know about you i'm not wanting any of that > > >and i'm afraid i wouldnt be voting for anyone that did that > > without a good > > >reason. > > > > > >I think martial law was declared in LA back in the riots? But it > > might not > > >have been, just the NG and the curfew etc > > > > > >Bill Wheatley > > >Senior Database Developer > > >Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > >EDIETS.COM > > >954.360.9022 X159 > > >ICQ 417645 > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:42 PM > > >Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > > Because our president is the Commander in Chief, that's why. That is > > > > way too much power in one man. > > > > I also have a sneaking suspicion the FOIA does not apply to > > > > the military, and if so, I'd bet that is the whole point here. > > > > > > > > If martial law allows soldiers to do whatever they want, then why not > > > > just declare martial law if the FBI,CIA,ATF, etc, do not have enough > > > > resources to handle the terrorist threat? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jon > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Monday, July 22, 2002, 3:25:11 PM, you wrote: > > > > BW> What is scary about it? IF there is a state of martial > > law declared > > >the > > > > BW> military can do just that. > > > > > > > > BW> But I don't see why letting the military ACT as law enforcement at > > >times is > > > > BW> scary besides the fact they are trained as soldiers and not law > > >enforcement, > > > > BW> unless they only used MP's or SP's which I doubt. Its not > > saying using > > >the > > > > BW> military in police actions would mean its the same as martial law > > >where you > > > > BW> loose all your rights and guarantees. I'm sure you would > > still have > > >the same > > > > BW> protections and hell if they screw up you can sue the > > army ;) well you > > >could > > > > BW> try. > > > > BW> Using a broken keyboard for a bettter tomorrow :P > > > > BW> Bill Wheatley > > > > BW> Senior Database Developer > > > > BW> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > > BW> EDIETS.COM > > > > BW> 954.360.9022 X159 > > > > BW> ICQ 417645 > > > > BW> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > BW> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > BW> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > BW> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:18 PM > > > > BW> Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Scary. > > > > >> > > > > >> > Ridge: Consider Using Military To Enforce Law Domestically > > > > >> > > > > > >> > WASHINGTON - Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said > > Sunday that > > >the > > > > BW> threat of > > > > >> > terrorism may force government planners > > > > >> > to consider using the military for domestic law enforcement, now > > >largely > > > > >> > prohibited by federal law. > > > > >> > President Bush has called on Congress to thoroughly > > review the law > > > > BW> banning the > > > > >> > Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines from > > > > >> > participating in arrests, searches, seizure of evidence and other > > >police > > > > >> > activity on U.S. soil. The Coast Guard and > > > > >> > National Guard troops under control of state governors > > are excluded > > >from > > > > BW> the > > > > >> > Reconstruction-era law, known as the > > > > >> > ``Posse Comitatus Act.'' > > > > >> > > > > > >> > http://news.tbo.com/news/MGA83ZUSX3D.html > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
