And accurate.

Still leaves out the constitutional aspects of this debate.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:22 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest


This is the first really good comment in this discussion.

-Kevin Graeme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:13 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Homicide rates would drop if all the gun control laws on the
> books now were
> enforced
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:26 AM
> Subject: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> > On training again, so my replies will be spotty today.
> >
> > at the same time, if you look at the murder rates in Canada and the US,
> Canada has a murder rate that is far below what would be expected if gun
> control laws had no effect on homicide rate. When you
> statistically control
> for other factors, such as economic and ses factors, the differences are
> even greater.
> >
> > One very good example I like was a study that compared emergency room
> visits to Seattle area and Vancouver, BC area hospitals. For Seattle the
> majority of emergency room visits were firearm related. In
> Vancouver it was
> auto and home accidents. When statistical matching was used to control for
> national differences other than guns, such as health care factors etc, the
> only differences that remained were entirely attributed to firearms.
> >
> > One thing that many forget in this arguement is the
> impulsiveness involved
> with many firearm related homicides and incidents. Beating a
> person to death
> or using a blunt instrument required a lot of deliberation and
> intentionality. In contrast, how fast does it take to use a
> firearm? Remove
> firearms from the equation and homicide rates drop precipitously.
> >
> > larry
> >
> 

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