Yeah, our network guy is a big fan of Tiny. He keeps getting on me
about BlackIce :)

Still application protection of any kind is useless as long as one
program with a COM/.Net/etc. scriptable interface is allowed
unfettered access to the net...and IE fits that bill nicely.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:jonhall@;ozline.net

Friday, November 8, 2002, 4:03:24 PM, you wrote:
LL> The firewall I use (Tiny Personal Firewall) blocks anything outgoing from
LL> the machine unless you OK it. So its a bit more of a protection.

LL> larry

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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jon hall [mailto:jonhall@;ozline.net]
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:34 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Firewall
>> 
>> 
>> Sigh...this is all Steve Gibson's fault. If your computer gets
>> infected by a trojan. No firewall makes you safe. It's a pointless
>> battle. It's an extremely trivial script to use Internet Explorer to
>> send and receive data, right past ZA or the new Black Ice app
>> protection. IE is the first thing you let have access to the internet
>> right?.........
>> 
>> The most effective defense against trojan's and viruses in general is
>> to not use Outlook. Outlook/OE is the number one vector for attack
>> these days by a wide margin.
>> 
>> -- 
>>  jon
>>  mailto:jonhall@;ozline.net
>> 
>> Friday, November 8, 2002, 1:02:55 PM, you wrote:
>> HP> The one article I read claimed that Black Ice was 
>> ineffective against
>> HP> zombies - but it may be dated now...
>> 
>> HP> Patrick
>> 
>> 
LL> 
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