Hee hee, so lets outlaw guns and knives ans swords and all types of poisons and all blunt instruments (bear with me for a second) Then the rates for automotive manslaughter + "accidents" + stranglings will shoot up by 11000 thousand people?
> -----Original Message----- > From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com] > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:11 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow > > > > Also violent crime in general in gun-controlled countries > is way below > > the US average. Guns deaths are, of course, vastly lower (on the > > order of, for example, 11,000 a year in the US and 65 in > Japan - and > > that's just homocides, not accidental shootings). > > > > review the japenese KNIFE deaths ;) you will see about 11k a > year as well. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:08 PM > Subject: RE: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow > > > > > > Actually there's a huge physchological gap between shooting > > > somebody > > > > and thrusting a sword (or a knife for that matter) into > somebody's > > > > flesh. Same thing with nearly any strength-based weapon - > > > you either > > > > have it in you to take that kind of direct action or you don't. > > > > > > > > Many of the people that end up using a gun to kill would > > > never be able > > > > to smash a skull with a baseball bat or drive a knife into > > > someone's > > > > liver. A gun abstracts the action and distances the > user from the > > > > effect. > > > > > > Possibly, possibly not. I mentioned before that I'd > noticed the gory > > > coverage of killings in UK papers. We all know that guns > aren't as > > > easy to come by in England, but people still seem to die. > From those > > > articles I've been reading, they often seem to involve bladed > > > weapons or, more commonly, bludgeoning weapons like hammers and > > > bats. And from the quite sanguine details in the papers, > I can tell > > > quite plainly that the acts were quite gruesome and > intentional. No > > > "hammer cleaning" accidents. (And yes, using the word > "sanguine" was > > > a pun.) > > > > > > I've talked about this with a friend of mine who speaks > Japanese and > > > reads the Japanese papers. Again, no guns but plenty of killing. > > > Talking to him, where we would have a headline about > someone being > > > shot, they just replace the word and action "shot" with > "strangled". > > > And I don't think I've ever heard about accidental strangulation > > > while hand washing. > > > > > > It appears that when people decide to kill, they are > going to kill > > > with or without a gun. That and IIRC, the majority of > homicides are > > > among closely related people and after that serious > grudge is over, > > > the likelyhood of another killing goes down. > > > > I agree totally. But the threshold needed is definitely higher. > > > > With a gin you hold it, finger on trigger, and point it at > your enemy > > (who ever that may be at the time). The only action required is > > squeezing the trigger (unless you have an old-fashioned gun with a > > hammer, then you have to pull that bak as well). > > > > In effect, consider people's lack of aim, your only option > is deadly > > force. > > > > With a bat/sword/knife/hammer/etc you must take direct, violent > > action. There are definately people that can do that, but > not as many > > that could take deadly action with a gun. > > > > Also violent crime in general in gun-controlled countries > is way below > > the US average. Guns deaths are, of course, vastly lower (on the > > order of, for example, 11,000 a year in the US and 65 in > Japan - and > > that's just homocides, not accidental shootings). > > > > I agree that other forms of violent crimes are liable to > rise in gun > > controlled countries - but they still don't approach the > levels in the > > US. > > > > Jim Davis > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
