In that case please tell me how the following right allows abortion, jesus in piss as art or expression, and allows the federal and state government to BAN the free exercise of religion.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States." Or how the following amendment will allow a police officer to seize and use against you items in your house, without a warrant, or that are not mentioned specifically in a warrant, or allow a court to force you to take a drug test against your will. Or collect DNA or fingerprint evidence prior to conviction.(not a private company, I fully understand that can and is usually a condition of employment, and fully within the employers rights) : "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Or how considering the next amendment the police, both federal and state, can come into your home and seize your property, keep it and sell it, if if your found not guilty of the crime. "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Or how we can have "Secret" trials of US Citizens considering the following: "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense." Sixth Amendment I can go on and on. That being said I should say that I love this country, I understand the mistakes we are making. As a group the citizens of this country need to stand and be heard. There are fewer and fewer people who go out and vote in each election. Soon it will be only the people who have a direct interest in the out come of the election that take part. The two party system we have adopted is causing greater and ever more widening gaps in our beliefs. Just hope we do something about it. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban) State right. based on the first clause of the statement. larry At 12:23 PM 12/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >OK folks. Snap poll: > >"A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, >the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." - >The second amendment to the constitution of the United States > >1. This proclaims an individual right. > >2. This proclaims a state right. > >My rant will follow. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:15 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban > > >Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban > >Thu Dec 5,10:36 PM ETAdd U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! > >By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer > >SAN FRANCISCO(AP) - A federal appeals court unanimously upheld >California's ban on assault weapons Thursday, saying >individuals had no right to bear arms under the Second Amendment. > >"The historical record makes it equally plain that the amendment was not >adopted in order to afford rights to >individuals with respect to private gun ownership or possession," Judge >Stephen Reinhardt wrote in the 9th U.S. Circuit >Court of Appeals decision. > >Weapons owners challenged amendments to a 1989 law that originally >outlawed 75 high-powered weapons with rapid-fire >capabilities. The Legislature passed the nation's first law banning such >weapons after a gunman fired a semiautomatic >weapon into a Stockton school yard, killing five children and injuring 30. > >Following California's lead, several states and the federal government >passed similar or even stricter bans. >In 1999, California lawmakers amended the law to ban assault weapons based >on a host of features instead of specific >makes and models - a move that outlawed hundreds of so-called copycat >weapons not clearly defined in the initial law. > >"While I respect the rights of Californians to pursue hunting and sports >shooting, and of law-abiding citizens to >protect their homes and businesses, there is no need for these military >style weapons to be on the streets in our >state," said Bill Lockyer, >California's attorney general. > >The National Rifle Association said it was disappointed with the ruling. > >"From an organizational standpoint, for 131 years we've been standing >steadfastly to protect the freedoms of all law >abiding Americans and stand steadfastly that the Second Amendment is an >individual right and will continue to do so," >said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. > >Arulanandam said it was too early to tell what the effects of the decision >would be. > >Attorneys for the suing gun owners did not immediately return phone calls >Thursday. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. 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