You state all the facts, why no one should support the Saddam regimen, however, one major question in my mind is why is not Iraq's neighbors making an outcry for his ouster? Sure he has attacked and killed Iraqi neighbors, but absolutely not one of them are calling for his ouster. The first invasion was all about oil, and so is this one. OPEC does not want Iraq to have economic sanctions lifted, as that will be major competition in the oil patch and will drive prices back down. Could it be that all of them support his attacking Israel?
The next question is that why should a so-called peaceful nation, become the world's policeman? We only have the support of Pakistan in return for billions in bribes and aid. Cut that off, and they will revert immediately to what Afghanistan was before the US attack. Exactly the same exist in Bosnia. I can remember US Presidents being voted out of office because of scandals involving covert operations to change the leadership of countries to one that will best favor the US trade and economical interests. Is this not exactly the same thing? China is a Territory aggressor. many African countries are territory aggressors, and that is not all. We are not calling for a change of regime in China or Africa (where Muslims are murdering (slaughtering?) any and all dissidents.) by the millions) We are pouring taxpayers' money into Columbia and getting nowhere, because The US will not aggressively root our the flow of money and the money changers right here in the US. The US decries terrorists, but still will not do much more than cosmetic changes in our Border policy, and of course does nothing at all about illegal immigrants, including the ones that commit felonies. Lowly clerks in our State Department still have the authority to grant visas without having to do any investigation at all. We do not prosecute seditionists, in fact we do not even have an enforceable sedition law. We do not prosecute those who are rallying people to oppose the US by force in the name of some religion or other. The real traitors are those that campaign against this country developing our own domestic oil supplies and reducing our dependence on foreign sources. Our built-in hate for Mexico has prevented a reliable, cheap and long term solution for supplies of natural gas and petroleum. It is the US policies that are at fault in the Argentina crisis. Wake up folks! It appears that the Bush administration desires to control World Trade, much like a throwback to the British when the Americas were very young. The policy did not sell then, and I feel it will not sell now. His attorney general is interested only in removing citizen rights as guaranteed by our constitution, but will not prosecute corporate criminals, other than a very few high profile cases. The US economy is in the toilet, and our foreign policy sucks big time. The major call-up of military reserves is not the best way to create job openings for the unemployed. These areas are a topic better attended to by our elected representatives. The Bush administration is trading in fear tactics, both against our own people (Bought your plastic and duct tape yet?) and others as well. It warms my heart that many are not buying it. I would rather see this country pulling its troops out of Germany, and any other European country that opposes us. A little more nationalism would be a good thing, I think in my own libertarian mind. ===================================== Douglas White | Subject: The Choice Before Us | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:02:27 -0400 | Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=6781&fo rumid=5#60949 | | First, you need to take note that Saddam has actually been a territory aggressor - this is perhaps the most important point. Saddam was mounting his military next to the Saudi border before we invaded (thus the reason we were allowed to use Saudi land for the attack - they hate us perhaps more than Saddam). | | Why is this significant? With Iraq having the 4th largest army in the world, the access, ability and proven willingness to use chemical and biological weapons - if he was successful in taking Saudi next (and he would have been) - he would have controlled over 50% of the world's oil. | | So is it about oil? Yes, in some ways it is. Do we want to steal his oil or control his share? Of course not - we have proven that with the first conflict. | | But can you think of a better way to stifle and ruin the global economy and bring it to its knees than stop the oil flow - thus stopping transportation - supply lines - etc? Anyone that can't see the importance of protecting the oil from a proven aggressor like that is being a little na�ve to the global economy dependencies. One of the main considerations of execution of the first strike was ensuring Saddam didn't cut off his nose in spite of his face, and destroy his own oil fields. | | Secondly, it is obvious why the Middle East situation is 10 times more important than the North Korea situation. With Saddam having the ability to launch against Israel, we have serious problems. The middle east is a time bomb, and Saddam knows that we would have no choice than to defend on short notice - causing massive casualties - eventually leaving Israel in a good position to make bad decisions (nukes). Now enter the entire Arab hot bed into the situation. Pakistan pops a few nukes into India and joins Saddam's army - India retaliates with nukes. A huge radioactive cloud would cover half the world in a matter of months. It will make the holocaust look like a chuck e cheese birthday party. These are people that would love nothing more than die pushing the nuke button and visit their 79 virgins in the sky. It's a massive bomb waiting to go off. | | North Korea is a serious situation, but the consequences are hardly as serious as the Middle East for the time being. North Korea can be handled with Economic sanctions Saddam has proven he cannot. North Korea is surrounded with countries that do not support their actions so their clout is not as impressive as they might think, who are their allies? The same people we are trying to disarm right now. | | Third, there are in fact major humanitarian reasons to liberate Iraq. I know that there is a morality question of whether we have the right to do so. It is not a sole reason to oust Saddam, but is one more thing to add to a very long and growing list of concerns. But it is important to note the conditions the Iraqis live under. It would take hours to list a fraction of them. One of the most disgusting facts is that Iraq is the only country that employs professional rapists. -Look it up if you want. | | Don't flame or personally attack each other - we are all above that. Bottom line is that we all have an opinion, and I respect yours - I'm just stating mine. =) | | | Nate Nielsen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
