comparing the iraq of today to Nazi germany is virtually unbelievable---
I'm not going to even go into details, i shouldn't have to..

All the <me> arguments apply more to Korea (to pick the prime example) than
Iraq.  

Please find me an argument that applies to Iraq only, and is not not more
applicable to another dodgy country 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 February 2003 15:04
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: The Choice Before Us


Crew, sorry to keep this going but I cant let this go by.
Jim,  Lets take this point by point.

<you>
Germany and it's allies were in a position to militarily,
technologically and economically control much (perhaps all) of Europe
and significant areas of Asia and Africa as well.  Saddam is barely
capable of posing a significant threat to his neighbors (who, if
attacked would receive immediate UN military aide).
</you>
<me>
Well, lets see.  Hes got a decent sized army.  Admittedly,it was much
reduced ten years ago but that was ten years ago.  hes had lots of time to
rebuild it.  I think its been proven that he has large amounts of chemical
weapons and missiles that can deliver them to at least a hundred miles.  So,
I cant consider him insignificant even to our force that is currently
massing over there.
</me>

<you>
Germany and it's allies were actively engaged in a (succesful) war of
conquest with obvious and active plans for further expansion.  Iraq is
not actively engaging in conquest (again, if they start there is every
reason to go to war).
</you>
<me>
if he thought he could get away with it, hed be at it again.
</me>

<you>
Germany was actively engaged in genocidal practices.  They continued
these practices as long as they possibly could.  Iraq is not currently
engaged in such practices.
</you>
<me>
do you know who the kurds are?  ask them if they havent been the subject of
constant chemical agent attacks over the past 10-15 years.
</me>

<you>
Germany and it's allies were actively engaged in ground-breaking
research to improve their war machines.  Research that, if it were
allowed to continue, would have shifted the balance of power perhaps
uncontrollably.  This included ballistic missiles, jet fighters, atomic
weapons and so on.  Iraq may be engaged in such research but nothing
indicates that it could lead to as striking a balance of power (and, at
worst such a shift would be localized rather than global).
</you>
<me>
the new weapons of choice are dirty bombs and chemical agents.  Hes working
his ass off to make them.  he has more experience deploying chemical weapons
on live targets than anyone in the world.
</me>

DRE




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