Very nice analysis, but none of that matters because Bush is gonna do it
anyway. 
In the end the only thing that matters is that we got rid of this ass-clown
and the history books will applaud us for it. After it is over, then we set
our sights on N.Korea.

Soon the cultural, econmic, and military domination of the USA over the
world will be complete....<insert dr. evil laugh>.....unless the UN pays us
..... one hundred million dollars.....<insert another evil laugh for good
measure>




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: The Choice Before Us


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:53 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: The Choice Before Us
> 
> 
> Ok,
> 
>       Don't compare Iraq to 19400 or 41 Germany.  Compare it 
> to 1935-36
> Germany.   Wouldn't you rather we caught on before it was too late?
> 
> Tim

Okay, let's compare!

1) Germany and it's allies were strong and allowed to build up massive
military machines.  Iraq is not strong and has not been allowed (even at
it's height) to build military machines capable of conquest on a global
scale.

2) When Germany began it's war of conquest it began with disputed areas
and the rest of the world, presumably tired of conflict, assented.
Iraq's first and only attempt at expansion was met with immediate and
irresistible force.

3) Germany was a world technology and research leader.  Iraq is far, far
from it.

4) Germany was freshly united under a charismatic leader able to rally
his people to his cause.  Iraq's leader is tyrannical and lacks similar
personal support from his general population.

5) Germany had support from several strong allies.  Iraq lacks such
support.

6) Germany had the capability to construct its own weapons of war on
massive scales.  Iraq does not have such capability.

7) Germany was in the heart of a massive post-war depression.  People
were more willing to listen to questionable solutions if they provided
hope of relief.  There's no evidence that the quality of life of the
average Iraqi citizen is any better or worse since the end of the Gulf
War.

8) The world situation was vastly different.  The major powers were all
also engulfed in depression and isolationist policies.  They are not
now.

9) The cost of successfully attacking Germany, even in the late thirties
would have been vast both financially and humanly especially considering
the tools of war then available.  The cost of attacking Iraq is not so
great, relatively especially considering the tools of war now available.

So, I still feel that the argument is non sequiter.

However, Yes: I would have rathered that we "caught on" to Germany
before it was too late.  I don't see a similar situation in Iraq at all.
I have trouble, even played devil's advocate, seeing how a comparable
situation would result from Iraq.

Jim Davis



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