Umm stop the bus you're way off. > Don't compare Iraq to 19400 or 41 Germany. Compare it > to 1935-36 > Germany.
1) Germany and it's allies were strong and allowed to build up massive military machines. Iraq is not strong and has not been allowed (even at it's height) to build military machines capable of conquest on a global scale. 9) The cost of successfully attacking Germany, even in the late thirties would have been vast both financially and humanly especially considering the tools of war then available. The cost of attacking Iraq is not so great, relatively especially considering the tools of war now available. in 1935 & 1936 germany was very weak very poor and who are the allies you talk of? Even in 1939 Germanys military was not ready for war not until 1941 was its military machine of any real depth. 1939 if the allies could have kept it together they could have won, germany won with tactics and good leadership. The france tanks could have ripped the germans pk39 and early panzers to pieces. Since the czech tanks they took when they occupied czech terriority were better then the early german tanks. And when the germans reoccupied the rhineland if france had brought in just a Fraction of its military to fight the germans wouldn't have been able to do jack, it was a bluff pure and simple hilter played off the worlds indifference and got away and got himself time to build up. It is well documented and well known, i thought, that even hilter and his generals knew if they had resisted he would have been done for, but he knew they wouldnt do anything. 6) Germany had the capability to construct its own weapons of war on massive scales. Iraq does not have such capability. As i said germanys production facilities were inadequate until 1941, actually the peak of production came in 1942 but still it was not enough to fight off the US and the rest of the world. 7) Germany was in the heart of a massive post-war depression. People were more willing to listen to questionable solutions if they provided hope of relief. There's no evidence that the quality of life of the average Iraqi citizen is any better or worse since the end of the Gulf War. There is plenty of reports that the SOL for Iraqis is in the shitter now after the gulf war. But as for the rest of your arguments they were more sound then these. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: RE: The Choice Before Us > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:53 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The Choice Before Us > > > Ok, > > Don't compare Iraq to 19400 or 41 Germany. Compare it > to 1935-36 > Germany. Wouldn't you rather we caught on before it was too late? > > Tim Okay, let's compare! 1) Germany and it's allies were strong and allowed to build up massive military machines. Iraq is not strong and has not been allowed (even at it's height) to build military machines capable of conquest on a global scale. 2) When Germany began it's war of conquest it began with disputed areas and the rest of the world, presumably tired of conflict, assented. Iraq's first and only attempt at expansion was met with immediate and irresistible force. 3) Germany was a world technology and research leader. Iraq is far, far from it. 4) Germany was freshly united under a charismatic leader able to rally his people to his cause. Iraq's leader is tyrannical and lacks similar personal support from his general population. 5) Germany had support from several strong allies. Iraq lacks such support. 8) The world situation was vastly different. The major powers were all also engulfed in depression and isolationist policies. They are not now. 9) The cost of successfully attacking Germany, even in the late thirties would have been vast both financially and humanly especially considering the tools of war then available. The cost of attacking Iraq is not so great, relatively especially considering the tools of war now available. So, I still feel that the argument is non sequiter. However, Yes: I would have rathered that we "caught on" to Germany before it was too late. I don't see a similar situation in Iraq at all. I have trouble, even played devil's advocate, seeing how a comparable situation would result from Iraq. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
