The French getting butt-kicked?  Since when? :P
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Subject: Re: RE: Empire-Building


> Even before the "domino effect", you had the French butt-kicked at Dien
Bien
> Phu, and the Geneva Accords (which the U.S. did _not_ sign), which
specified
> the _temporary_ partitioning of Vietnam into North and South, with a DMZ.
There
> were supposed to be national free elections within a specified time
period.
>
> The U.S. realized that Ho Chi Minh would likely garner 70% or more of the
vote,
> and instead of complying with the accords, installed a puppet government
and
> began providing military "advisors" etc.
>
> Little did the U.S. realize that Ho hated the Chinese, former occupiers of
> Vietnam, and would have likely been amenable to peaceful relations and
perhaps
> trade with the U.S. had we recognized him...
>
> -Ben
> > I wonder if Vietnam was an example if "hard power", as he liked to call
it.
> > That war, after all, was a result of that administration's policies on
> > containing the "domino effect".
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:59 pm
> > Subject: RE: Empire-Building
> >
> > > Thanks.  I like the fuller version better.
> > >
> > > If Powell wasn't so damn smart, he'd run for President.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:40 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Empire-Building
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/powell.asp
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:21 pm
> > > Subject: Empire-Building
> > >
> > > > When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was
> > > > asked by the
> > > > Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an
> > > > example of empire
> > > > building by George Bush.
> > > >
> > > > He answered by saying, "Over the years, the United States has sent
> > > > many of its
> > > > fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
> > > > beyond our
> > > > borders.   The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
> > > > return is enough
> > > > to bury those that did not return!"
> > > >
> > > > It became very quiet in the room.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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