maybe I'm just getting old, but I can't believe how serious this
conversation is! lol
cripey! hehe
well I thought that was a classic story - it just about restored my faith in
America! 
It reminds me of the
first line of Bill Bryson's book: 'The Lost Continent: Travels in Small-Town
America' 
"I was born in Des Moines Iowa. Somebody had to be."

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: March 28, 2003 10:46 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>
>Seat belts are a god idea, but I think that legislating their 
>use is insane.
>Drug laws are ridiculous.  They are a throw back to the 
>teetotalers of the
>prohibition period.  
>
>You say lets look at the cost to society as a whole.  Ok lets 
>look at the
>billions of dollars a year that are spent "combating" drugs in 
>the US.  for
>nothing.  They are still used every day.  You want to be able 
>to give a big
>huge tax cut to the people of the US?  Do away with most drug 
>laws. Come out
>with laws closer to alcohol, can't drive on it, can't be 
>acting the fool in
>public.  Impose huge tariffs on it like cigarettes.  Disband 
>the DEA.  Wow,
>imagine what that would do to the economy?  Suddenly you have 
>this whole
>underground section of the economy operating above ground, being taxed,
>creating jobs, the whole nine yards.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:41 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>
>>>That goes along with my personal philosophy about laws - as 
>long as it
>>>doesn't affect or hurt anybody else, then whatever you want 
>to do should
>>>be ok. I've noticed that most of the controversial laws 
>these days are
>>>aimed at "protecting you from yourself" as in drug laws, 
>seat belts, and
>>>other privacy issues.
>
>Within reason. I think seatbelt laws are a good example for us 
>to follow. As
>for privacy issues such as the right for a person to end their own life
>because of a terrible disease, I dont think there should be 
>any legislation
>against it. If I have terminal cancer, and I wanna stop the 
>pain. Some ass
>clown in Lansing or Washington shouldn't be able to stop me 
>because they
>dont think "it's the right thing to do" or it's not "morally 
>justified".
>
>As for drugs, jeez I have no clue. I mean if people wanna 
>string themselves
>out on Heroin, crack, coke, speed, meth, ice, pot, paint fumes 
>that's fine
>with me. But then you have to look at the costs to the society 
>as a whole
>because these dorks are then running around selling their 
>asses or stealing
>stuff, then it affects us all. So I have no clue what the 
>right answer is,
>maybe there isn't one.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:31 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>
>So you're basically saying that as long as the lie doesn't affect
>anybody else, then it should be ok to do it?  That makes sense to me.
>
>That goes along with my personal philosophy about laws - as long as it
>doesn't affect or hurt anybody else, then whatever you want to 
>do should
>be ok. I've noticed that most of the controversial laws these days are
>aimed at "protecting you from yourself" as in drug laws, seat 
>belts, and
>other privacy issues.
>
>
>
>Matthew Small
>IT Supervisor
>Showstopper National Dance Competitions
>3660 Old Kings Hwy 
>Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
>843-357-1847
>http://www.showstopperonline.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:23 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>I think the only lying which should be a crime is the lying under oath,
>or
>perjury. Other than that, if you can make a libel case stick than I say
>go
>for it, otherwise if I wanna walk around saying I caught a 45 pound
>steelhead using nothing but a tootsie roll and my incredible 
>charm, then
>I
>should be able to. Do you agree?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:15 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>
>Well the fire issue is more related to the fear and chaos that such a
>pronouncement could cause.  I mean If I say the sky is green and it's
>really
>blue should I be arrested?  No, but lying about things is already
>against
>the law in some ways.  Ummmm false crime reporting, libel, there are
>some
>things.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:01 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>
>Is lying protected by the Constitution?  Of course, you have the right
>to express your opinion, but you can't yell "Fire" in a 
>crowded theater,
>which of course would be lying.
>
>I'm not saying I support this ordance, just wondering about the actual
>legal ramifications.
>
>Matthew Small
>IT Supervisor
>Showstopper National Dance Competitions
>3660 Old Kings Hwy 
>Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
>843-357-1847
>http://www.showstopperonline.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:55 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution
>
>http://www.startribune.com/stories/1451/3788172.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
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