Seat belts are a god idea, but I think that legislating their use is insane.
Drug laws are ridiculous.  They are a throw back to the teetotalers of the
prohibition period.  

You say lets look at the cost to society as a whole.  Ok lets look at the
billions of dollars a year that are spent "combating" drugs in the US.  for
nothing.  They are still used every day.  You want to be able to give a big
huge tax cut to the people of the US?  Do away with most drug laws. Come out
with laws closer to alcohol, can't drive on it, can't be acting the fool in
public.  Impose huge tariffs on it like cigarettes.  Disband the DEA.  Wow,
imagine what that would do to the economy?  Suddenly you have this whole
underground section of the economy operating above ground, being taxed,
creating jobs, the whole nine yards.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:41 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution


>>That goes along with my personal philosophy about laws - as long as it
>>doesn't affect or hurt anybody else, then whatever you want to do should
>>be ok. I've noticed that most of the controversial laws these days are
>>aimed at "protecting you from yourself" as in drug laws, seat belts, and
>>other privacy issues.

Within reason. I think seatbelt laws are a good example for us to follow. As
for privacy issues such as the right for a person to end their own life
because of a terrible disease, I dont think there should be any legislation
against it. If I have terminal cancer, and I wanna stop the pain. Some ass
clown in Lansing or Washington shouldn't be able to stop me because they
dont think "it's the right thing to do" or it's not "morally justified".

As for drugs, jeez I have no clue. I mean if people wanna string themselves
out on Heroin, crack, coke, speed, meth, ice, pot, paint fumes that's fine
with me. But then you have to look at the costs to the society as a whole
because these dorks are then running around selling their asses or stealing
stuff, then it affects us all. So I have no clue what the right answer is,
maybe there isn't one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:31 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution


So you're basically saying that as long as the lie doesn't affect
anybody else, then it should be ok to do it?  That makes sense to me.

That goes along with my personal philosophy about laws - as long as it
doesn't affect or hurt anybody else, then whatever you want to do should
be ok. I've noticed that most of the controversial laws these days are
aimed at "protecting you from yourself" as in drug laws, seat belts, and
other privacy issues.



Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
Showstopper National Dance Competitions
3660 Old Kings Hwy 
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-357-1847
http://www.showstopperonline.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:23 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution

I think the only lying which should be a crime is the lying under oath,
or
perjury. Other than that, if you can make a libel case stick than I say
go
for it, otherwise if I wanna walk around saying I caught a 45 pound
steelhead using nothing but a tootsie roll and my incredible charm, then
I
should be able to. Do you agree?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:15 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution


Well the fire issue is more related to the fear and chaos that such a
pronouncement could cause.  I mean If I say the sky is green and it's
really
blue should I be arrested?  No, but lying about things is already
against
the law in some ways.  Ummmm false crime reporting, libel, there are
some
things.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:01 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution


Is lying protected by the Constitution?  Of course, you have the right
to express your opinion, but you can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater,
which of course would be lying.

I'm not saying I support this ordance, just wondering about the actual
legal ramifications.

Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
Showstopper National Dance Competitions
3660 Old Kings Hwy 
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-357-1847
http://www.showstopperonline.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:55 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Constitution, we don't need no stinking Constitution

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