submarines. In NM. Riiiiiight. Those people were obviously related to the
people in Roswell who saw the UFOs. Geez Louise, the Rio Grande is
practically the only water in the state and its usually about an inch deep
lol.

Anyway, if you are ever back this way Santa Fe is definitely worth a look,
and one of my favorite memories is deciding to see where 7th St in Las
Vegas goes... Turns out it deadends about 30 miles into the Santa Fe
National Forest, on the other side of some really stunning scenery...

but yeah.... I will shut up now :)

Dana

Ian Skinner writes:

> No, I never made it past Roswell.  Unfortunately my transportation for my
> entire collage career was a 12 speed bicycle.  So, to get father then 10 or
> 12 miles, I needed to rely on the kindness of peers.
> 
> I always wanted to get to Carlsbad Caverns.  Lived in NM for almost 5 years
> and never made it.
> 
> Another favorite NM factoid.  During WWII, the prevailing guess by Pentagon
> and other high ranking Military and Government employees, who where NOT in
> the know, on what the Manhattan Project was.....a secret, underground
> submarine base...:).  Don't know if that one is true, but I still love it.
> 
> 
> --------------
> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
> BloodSource
> Sacramento, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:13 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Relocation Tips
> 
> 
> If I can delete threads about scrapple and michael moore and assault
> weapons they can delete threads where I rave about New Mexico :) Though I
> liked Central/Western Yexas quite a bit too :) But there are too many
> danged floods lol.
> 
> Did you ever get up to Lincoln? It's on my list of places to see.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Ian Skinner writes:
> 
> > We are probably boring every other person on this list who doesn't know
> what
> > we are talking about. :-)
> > 
> > You where pretty close then, Clovis is about 20 miles north of Portales.
> > You may not have realized it, but Interstate 40 runs through a very broad
> > valley.  If you turn south at Tucumcari onto US 70, you will quickly climb
> > up few hundred feet to a plateau. Clovis and Portales are on this plateau,
> > it is pretty flat, just enough hills to be nice.  Keep going south you
> will
> > get to Roswell.
> > 
> > I know what you mean about the stars.  Took an Astronomy class and the
> labs
> > where too much fun.
> > 
> > --------------
> > Ian Skinner
> > Web Programmer
> > BloodSource
> > Sacramento, CA
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:24 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Relocation Tips
> > 
> > 
> > I think the closest I have been to there is Clovis, and that was on the
> > drive in from Texas. Are there mountains or is it plains like oh Fort
> > Sumner and Vaughn? I remember once driving from Las Vegas (NM) to Las
> > Cruces. It was about the third time I had done it that week because I was
> > finalizing a move, so I was bored with the interstate and took the back
> > road through Vaughn and Alamagordo. I kept stopping to look at the stars.
> > Absolutely amazing. I saw nobody and was utterly happy :)
> > 
> > Dana
> > 
> > Ian Skinner writes:
> > 
> > > Yes, Eastern New Mexico University.   It' is very Eastern.  Throw a
> stone
> > > very very hard and it would land in Texas. (Actually, it would take a
> > canon,
> > > Portales is about 10 miles in from the border.)
> > > 
> > > I made it to the Annual Balloon event in Albuquerque a couple of time.
> > That
> > > is just so awesome.  I really want to get back for one of those.  Just
> > > standing amidst all these balloons as they are inflated and the
> launching
> > > just after sunrise.  The last one I was at, there where so many balloons
> > > they had to go in three waves.
> > > 
> > > --------------
> > > Ian Skinner
> > > Web Programmer
> > > BloodSource
> > > Sacramento, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Relocation Tips
> > > 
> > > 
> > > really? Is that Eastern New Mexico?
> > > 
> > > Ian Skinner writes:
> > > 
> > > > None of the above...Portales.
> > > > 
> > > > --------------
> > > > Ian Skinner
> > > > Web Programmer
> > > > BloodSource
> > > > Sacramento, CA
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:04 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Relocation Tips
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PS Albuquerque Socorro or Las Cruces?
> > > > 
> > > > Ian Skinner writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > Know what you mean.  I went to college in New Mexico, and hope to
> get
> > > back
> > > > > there someday.
> > > > > 
> > > > > One of my favorite big city/urban comparisons, came from my friend
> who
> > > > > trained for the Coast Guard on Governor's Island in New York Harbor.
> > He
> > > > ran
> > > > > across a plaque in Manhattan that stated how many people where in a
> > one
> > > > mile
> > > > > radius of that spot.  That number was the same as the entire 1980
> New
> > > > Mexico
> > > > > state population to 3 or 4 significant digits.  If I remember
> > correctly,
> > > > we
> > > > > once calculated that there were about the same number of people per
> > > square
> > > > > mile in New Mexico as there is per square foot in Manhattan.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My other favorite New Mexico eye opener, is that Santa Fe celebrated
> > > it's
> > > > > 333 year as a Capitol city.....
> > > > > ...
> > > > > ...
> > > > > ...
> > > > > in 1850.  It is closing on it's 500th year.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sorry about rambling on... I really do miss that part of the
> country.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --------------
> > > > > Ian Skinner
> > > > > Web Programmer
> > > > > BloodSource
> > > > > Sacramento, CA
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Relocation Tips
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I dont think there is a definite relocation guide. A lot of the
> things
> > > > that
> > > > > are involved in liking or not liking an area are very personal. My
> > > > hellhole
> > > > > with horrible schools is your great beach town; my rural paradise is
> > his
> > > > > hillybilly hell, etc. My best friend absolutely cannot understand
> what
> > I
> > > > > love about New Mexico and refers to it as a bunch of nothing. How to
> > > > > explain that the attraction is that it does empty so well? And so it
> > > goes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dana
> > > > > 
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >Hm... I certainly wouldn't buy the house first. In fact, when
> > > > relocating,
> > > > > > >once I'd found a job, I'd rent for a while before I'd consider
> > > buying.
> > > > > But,
> > > > > > >I'm not a definitive relocation guide, either.
> > > > > > >-d
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I recommended to my friend that he vacation there first.  (The
> town
> > in
> > > > > question is Cape Coral, FL.)  He should vacation IN the town to see
> > what
> > > > > it's like during the morning commute and what the night life is
> like.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -V
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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