I, for one, welcome our new alien Overlords.

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> If i had my choice, I'd have a hive mentality, where there 
> were no countries, and everyone worked together to get things done. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> Yes. There will always be more of the same. I'd just like a 
> government that was focused on the people and the state of 
> the country than on it's own power and outside interests.
> 
> 
> > <cf_insert_2_cents>
> > Do you agree that no matter who gets elected, there will be more of 
> > the same "something". By that I mean, more of the same 
> selling out to 
> > whatever special interests they hold dear. How can anyone 
> rise to the
> power
> > of the presidency without selling their soul on innumerable 
> occasions? 
> > </cf_insert_2_cents>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:56 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> >
> >
> > If n fact he is just another mouth piece, no. Last thing we need is 
> > more
> of
> > the same.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > Michael Dinowitz writes:
> >
> > > His backstory once made him very attractive to me as a candidate.
> Problem
> > is,
> > > he's become just another mouthpiece for the powers that be and is 
> > > just
> not
> > > someone I'd vote for anymore.
> > > Just as an aside, let me throw this into the mix.
> > >
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/po
> welldoctrine_s
> > hort
> > > .html
> > > His military doctrine about when and how to use force. 
> Seems he feel 
> > > it
> > only
> > > applies to himself, not to others....
> > >
> > > > I dunno... I could conceive of voting for him and I am sure as 
> > > > hell
> not
> > a
> > > > Republican. This may change if he appears to have been 
> dishonest. 
> > > > I
> also
> > > > wondered if he wasn't the source for that story.
> > > >
> > > > Dana
> > > >
> > > > jon hall writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Perhaps it may appear so on the surface, but I really can't 
> > > > > agree.
> The
> > > > > administration want's Powell to be a "yes man", but 
> obviously he 
> > > > > doesn't like it. Cheney is the one who originally 
> wrote the BS 
> > > > > in
> the
> > > > > first place.
> > > > > Much has been made about Powell disagreeing with the 
> > > > > administration
> on
> > > > > a lot of issues. The problem is that he is outnumbered in the 
> > > > > White House with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice usually lining up 
> > > > > against him.
> > > > >
> > > > > My take is the almost extreme opposite of this 
> somehow being a 
> > > > > sign
> of
> > > > > weakness on Powell's part. I see it as a sign of 
> strength that 
> > > > > he disagree's so much with the party line, but refuses to try 
> > > > > and make
> it
> > > > > an issue of right and wrong in the public eye. 
> Especially since 
> > > > > the American voter only really cares about the truth 
> when their 
> > > > > party doesn't have the White House. I doubt Powell would have 
> > > > > gained more Democratic supporters than Republican 
> supporters he 
> > > > > would have lost
> if
> > > > > he refused to go along with the White House.
> > > > >
> > > > > When it comes down to it, the first black man to have 
> a chance 
> > > > > of becoming President has more important things to 
> worry about 
> > > > > than whether or not one reason to go to war with Iraq 
> is better 
> > > > > than another. He has a strong support base on the right 
> > > > > currently and can't let the media screw up his image 
> by painting 
> > > > > him as a maverick, and
> I
> > > > > can't help but draw a parallel between David Palmer 
> in the show 
> > > > > 24, and Powell. Playing ball now will go a long way in the 
> > > > > future.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  jon
> > > > >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > Monday, June 2, 2003, 10:24:00 PM, you wrote:
> > > > > MD> Powell, who I once thought I respected, is 
> nothing more than 
> > > > > MD> a
> > "yes man"
> > > for
> > > > > MD> Bush and the forces in the state department. He is 
> > > > > MD> definitely
> not
> > in
> > > charge of
> > > > > MD> anything.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> On the evening of February 1, two dozen American officials
> gathered
> > in a
> > > > > MD> spacious conference room at the Central 
> Intelligence Agency 
> > > > > MD> in
> > Langley,
> > > Va. The
> > > > > MD> time had come to make the public case for war 
> against Iraq. 
> > > > > MD> For
> > six
> > > hours that
> > > > > MD> Saturday, the men and women of the Bush administration 
> > > > > MD> argued
> > about what
> > > > > MD> Secretary of State Colin Powell should--and 
> should not--say 
> > > > > MD> at
> the
> > > United
> > > > > MD> Nations Security Council four days later. Not all 
> the secret
> > > intelligence about
> > > > > MD> Saddam Hussein's misdeeds, they found, stood up to close
> scrutiny.
> > At
> > > one point
> > > > > MD> during the rehearsal, Powell tossed several pages in the 
> > > > > MD> air.
> "I'm
> > not
> > > reading
> > > > > MD> this," he declared. "This is bulls- - -."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 
> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030609/usne> ws/9intell.htm
> 
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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