Hehe,
        I was thinking pretty much the same thing.

Tim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:17 AM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> <cf_insert_2_cents>
>       Do you agree that no matter who gets elected, there will be more of
> the same "something". By that I mean, more of the same selling out to
> whatever special interests they hold dear. How can anyone rise to the
> power
> of the presidency without selling their soul on innumerable occasions?
> </cf_insert_2_cents>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> If n fact he is just another mouth piece, no. Last thing we need is more
> of
> the same.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Michael Dinowitz writes:
> 
> > His backstory once made him very attractive to me as a candidate.
> Problem
> is,
> > he's become just another mouthpiece for the powers that be and is just
> not
> > someone I'd vote for anymore.
> > Just as an aside, let me throw this into the mix.
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/powelldoctrine
> _s
> hort
> > .html
> > His military doctrine about when and how to use force. Seems he feel it
> only
> > applies to himself, not to others....
> > 
> > > I dunno... I could conceive of voting for him and I am sure as hell
> not
> a
> > > Republican. This may change if he appears to have been dishonest. I
> also
> > > wondered if he wasn't the source for that story.
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > jon hall writes:
> > >
> > > > Perhaps it may appear so on the surface, but I really can't agree.
> The
> > > > administration want's Powell to be a "yes man", but obviously he
> > > > doesn't like it. Cheney is the one who originally wrote the BS in
> the
> > > > first place.
> > > > Much has been made about Powell disagreeing with the administration
> on
> > > > a lot of issues. The problem is that he is outnumbered in the White
> > > > House with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice usually lining up against him.
> > > >
> > > > My take is the almost extreme opposite of this somehow being a sign
> of
> > > > weakness on Powell's part. I see it as a sign of strength that he
> > > > disagree's so much with the party line, but refuses to try and make
> it
> > > > an issue of right and wrong in the public eye. Especially since the
> > > > American voter only really cares about the truth when their party
> > > > doesn't have the White House. I doubt Powell would have gained more
> > > > Democratic supporters than Republican supporters he would have lost
> if
> > > > he refused to go along with the White House.
> > > >
> > > > When it comes down to it, the first black man to have a chance of
> > > > becoming President has more important things to worry about than
> > > > whether or not one reason to go to war with Iraq is better than
> > > > another.
> > > > He has a strong support base on the right currently and can't
> > > > let the media screw up his image by painting him as a maverick, and
> I
> > > > can't help but draw a parallel between David Palmer in the show 24,
> > > > and Powell. Playing ball now will go a long way in the future.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  jon
> > > >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Monday, June 2, 2003, 10:24:00 PM, you wrote:
> > > > MD> Powell, who I once thought I respected, is nothing more than a
> "yes man"
> > for
> > > > MD> Bush and the forces in the state department. He is definitely
> not
> in
> > charge of
> > > > MD> anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >> On the evening of February 1, two dozen American officials
> gathered
> in a
> > > > MD> spacious conference room at the Central Intelligence Agency in
> Langley,
> > Va. The
> > > > MD> time had come to make the public case for war against Iraq. For
> six
> > hours that
> > > > MD> Saturday, the men and women of the Bush administration argued
> about what
> > > > MD> Secretary of State Colin Powell should--and should not--say at
> the
> > United
> > > > MD> Nations Security Council four days later. Not all the secret
> > intelligence about
> > > > MD> Saddam Hussein's misdeeds, they found, stood up to close
> scrutiny.
> At
> > one point
> > > > MD> during the rehearsal, Powell tossed several pages in the air.
> "I'm
> not
> > reading
> > > > MD> this," he declared. "This is bulls- - -."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030609/usnews/9intell.htm
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
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