Well that was one thing shrub was talking about doing then 9/11 and it was left.
I would be in favor of that i guess, but that wouldn't mean you get to stay just means you won't goto prison you shoudl still have to go through the process like all the other hard working legal immigrants. And then if you get caught after the amnesty god help you, get thrown out and never be allowed back into the states again. "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS" > I get it I get it... I've lived in San Antonio. And actually I don't think > you can legalize yourself from inside the country until they have an > amnesty. > > Dana > > William Wheatley writes: > > > People just don't get that line, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Sure we need people to > > do the shit work of the country and its great they are willing to do it and > > get paid like shit (still better then where they are from) but get your ass > > legal. I'm all for legal immigrants i f'ing hate illegal immigrants though > > do the due diligance to get yourself legalized. > > > > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:21 PM > > Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS" > > > > > > > good analysis except for immigration. If they deport all illegal aliens > > > thy'll have to shut down the Riverwalk and probably the rest of San > > Antonio > > > too. Talk about throwing resources down a hole.... > > > > > > Doug White writes: > > > > > > > You well may have a point. As long as the current campaign finance > > programs are > > > > in place, you end up getting the best government you can buy. > > > > > > > > My government prof in College (a staunch republican, he) used to say > > that the > > > > only difference between the political parties is who decides who gets > > what. > > > > > > > > I would predict that IF the Democratic party could consolidate all their > > > > factions and adopt a slightly left of center platform, while avoiding > > extremism > > > > on either side, concentrate on the economy, the deficit, and the > > national debt > > > > (as Clinton did) they would win by a fairly wide margin. On the other > > hand, if > > > > they remain extreme left-wing, and as widely split as they are, they > > will hand > > > > the election over to the current administration. > > > > > > > > I have no problem with a defense policy of cutting off danger to the US > > at the > > > > pass, but I also feel some nationalism would go a long way, by not > > financially > > > > supporting those regimes worldwide for only short-term friendships. The > > > > American people must realize that any nation we consider friends, are > > friends > > > > only to the extent of their own interests, be it political, or > > financial. > > > > Unfortunately our friendship is likewise for sale, and we get so > > indignant when > > > > those policies come back and bite us. > > > > > > > > As for me, I would start with a closed border policy and strong emphasis > > on > > > > deportation of illegal immigration. The main thinking here is that if > > we are to > > > > be considered a nation of laws, then we must respect and enforce all > > laws, or > > > > remove them from the books. Selective enforcement and unequal justice > > is > > > > insidious, and is led mostly by the political aspirations of > > prosecutors. > > > > > > > > ====================================== > > > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > > > > For CF hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > > > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > > > > ====================================== > > > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:16 AM > > > > Subject: RE: Colin Powell: "This is BS" > > > > > > > > > > > > | <cf_insert_2_cents> > > > > | Do you agree that no matter who gets elected, there will be more of > > > > | the same "something". By that I mean, more of the same selling out to > > > > | whatever special interests they hold dear. How can anyone rise to the > > power > > > > | of the presidency without selling their soul on innumerable occasions? > > > > | </cf_insert_2_cents> > > > > | > > > > | -----Original Message----- > > > > | From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > | Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:56 AM > > > > | To: CF-Community > > > > | Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS" > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | If n fact he is just another mouth piece, no. Last thing we need is > > more of > > > > | the same. > > > > | > > > > | Dana > > > > | > > > > | Michael Dinowitz writes: > > > > | > > > > | > His backstory once made him very attractive to me as a candidate. > > Problem > > > > | is, > > > > | > he's become just another mouthpiece for the powers that be and is > > just not > > > > | > someone I'd vote for anymore. > > > > | > Just as an aside, let me throw this into the mix. > > > > | > > > > > | > > http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/powelldoctrine_s > > > > | hort > > > > | > .html > > > > | > His military doctrine about when and how to use force. Seems he feel > > it > > > > | only > > > > | > applies to himself, not to others.... > > > > | > > > > > | > > I dunno... I could conceive of voting for him and I am sure as > > hell not > > > > | a > > > > | > > Republican. This may change if he appears to have been dishonest. > > I also > > > > | > > wondered if he wasn't the source for that story. > > > > | > > > > > > | > > Dana > > > > | > > > > > > | > > jon hall writes: > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > Perhaps it may appear so on the surface, but I really can't > > agree. The > > > > | > > > administration want's Powell to be a "yes man", but obviously he > > > > | > > > doesn't like it. Cheney is the one who originally wrote the BS > > in the > > > > | > > > first place. > > > > | > > > Much has been made about Powell disagreeing with the > > administration on > > > > | > > > a lot of issues. The problem is that he is outnumbered in the > > White > > > > | > > > House with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice usually lining up against > > him. > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > My take is the almost extreme opposite of this somehow being a > > sign of > > > > | > > > weakness on Powell's part. I see it as a sign of strength that > > he > > > > | > > > disagree's so much with the party line, but refuses to try and > > make it > > > > | > > > an issue of right and wrong in the public eye. Especially since > > the > > > > | > > > American voter only really cares about the truth when their > > party > > > > | > > > doesn't have the White House. I doubt Powell would have gained > > more > > > > | > > > Democratic supporters than Republican supporters he would have > > lost if > > > > | > > > he refused to go along with the White House. > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > When it comes down to it, the first black man to have a chance > > of > > > > | > > > becoming President has more important things to worry about than > > > > | > > > whether or not one reason to go to war with Iraq is better than > > > > | > > > another. > > > > | > > > He has a strong support base on the right currently and can't > > > > | > > > let the media screw up his image by painting him as a maverick, > > and I > > > > | > > > can't help but draw a parallel between David Palmer in the show > > 24, > > > > | > > > and Powell. Playing ball now will go a long way in the future. > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > -- > > > > | > > > jon > > > > | > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > Monday, June 2, 2003, 10:24:00 PM, you wrote: > > > > | > > > MD> Powell, who I once thought I respected, is nothing more than > > a > > > > | "yes man" > > > > | > for > > > > | > > > MD> Bush and the forces in the state department. He is > > definitely not > > > > | in > > > > | > charge of > > > > | > > > MD> anything. > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > >> On the evening of February 1, two dozen American officials > > gathered > > > > | in a > > > > | > > > MD> spacious conference room at the Central Intelligence Agency > > in > > > > | Langley, > > > > | > Va. The > > > > | > > > MD> time had come to make the public case for war against Iraq. > > For > > > > | six > > > > | > hours that > > > > | > > > MD> Saturday, the men and women of the Bush administration > > argued > > > > | about what > > > > | > > > MD> Secretary of State Colin Powell should--and should not--say > > at the > > > > | > United > > > > | > > > MD> Nations Security Council four days later. Not all the secret > > > > | > intelligence about > > > > | > > > MD> Saddam Hussein's misdeeds, they found, stood up to close > > scrutiny. > > > > | At > > > > | > one point > > > > | > > > MD> during the rehearsal, Powell tossed several pages in the > > air. "I'm > > > > | not > > > > | > reading > > > > | > > > MD> this," he declared. "This is bulls- - -." > > > > | > > > >> > > > > | > > > >> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030609/usnews/9intell.htm > > > > | > > > >> > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
