> I take great objection to that. I do not in any way agree > with any attitude of "what's done is done, let's just move > on" because it gives tacit approval for the next time > something comes up like this for them to do the same. It will > become an operating principle that there is no need for prior > justification nor review for censure of any action of the > President or Prime Minister, as if that's not the case already.
I'm not saying to ignore it, but to help the innocents FIRST, and as a priority... Otherwise they'll get more and more into a cycle of poverty... It won't be "justified" for another attack, but things should be put into place of priority... > I WANT this to cost our governments. If there is anything we > as citizens can do to prevent an abuse of power it is to make > the costs of committing that abuse too high to even consider. > The costs of conducting the war took away from our own > domestic budgets for programs and services which benefitted > our own people. If the war was so damned important to spend > money on, I have no qualms in spending a little more to make > sure of that. It just goes towards the costs of the war. But since the countries have pledged to help the citizens of Iraq, then why not step up and give a whole-hearted amount of help? > So what about the poor people of Iraq? It's a red-herring > argument. Our government here is structured such that all > these people that are investigating the intelligence and such > are not people who would be helping in the reconstruction > anyway. The people that are rebuilding are still going to be > doing that, despite whether there is an investigation or not. True, but the funds given to them could be used elsewhere in the meantime... > The people doing the investigation will either be chewing > this bone or another, and will be pulling a paycheck > regardless. Are you saying that during a "boring" period, the governments pay money to sit and scratch their asses, just in case something might need investigation in the future? What happens if 2 things need investigation? Do they have 2 teams? Maybe 3 in case the other 2 are busy? If so, then the government should be kicked up the asses for this, as that money being spent on people who do virtually nothing during the quiet periods are taking funds that can be used for REAL problems, not just finger pointing! > I personally think this is a big enough bone that > it really needs to be chewed on with great and furious > deliberation. Even if the outcome is that the intelligence > completely justified the actions, then it will restore > confidence in the intelligence community and the decision > makers who used that intelligence. If it doesn't justify it, > then I think there needs to be extreme censure of the people > involved to send a message that we won't be lied to and manipulated. How about other issues that are "big enough bones"? Don't they deserve the deliberation that this is being given? Maybe both countries should employ 50% of the unemployed just to investigate every little "bone" that needs to be looked into, that would solve the problems of unemployment, wouldn't it? <g> Seriously though, there's far to many things that the intelligence community gets wrong, but this is being highlighted as it cost a lot of money in one go - others may have spent a large amount over longer periods, but because it's not a high public profile it won't get investigated Is this one matter THAT much more important than everything else going on? The war is over - it happened, it'll happen again (it's the nature of war), was there a BIG investigation after Vietnam? How about after the Falklands? The original Iraq war? There was loads of press coverage, but this one item seems to be of more importance than anything else that's ever happened... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
