I'm trying to think of a time the world tried diplomacy more then in the 1930's early 1940's. Diplomacy doesn't always work, though maybe it does sometimes.
"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: RE: A good american > I think what Deanna is saying at least in part is that war is the failure of > dialogue and diplomacy and wouldn't it be nice if those warriors didn't have > to die. > It may sound naive to some but you know if we put as much enthusiasm and > painstaking effort into dialogue and peacemaking of the diplomatic kind as > we do to military build-up then the world might be very different. I think > the skills required for such efforts are still relatively new and unknown > and thus are there to be explored and exploited. > In my view war is all about the less fortunate being manipulated by those in > power into protecting their interests. If you want to know how noble that is > perhaps it is time to reread Wilfred Owen's "Dulce et Decorum Est". > > Patrick > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: June 11, 2003 9:54 AM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > >being Ex-Military, I will chime in on this one.... > > > >I joined because I love my country and wanted to serve and protect > >our country and the way of life as we have it today. We have the RIGHT > >to do a lot of things that some third world countries do not have. > >Which > >a lot of people take for granted. > > > >I was not escaping my parents, debt, raising money for college, or any > > > >other reason. I choose to join the armed forces. I was going to > >college. > >I was living at home with zero debt. > > > >Now you say you pity Americans whom have died for their country. > >So you pity those Americans who fault at Pearl Harbor to protect our > >country from the Japanese. A lot of the battles and wars we have > >fought > >as an Armed Forces, regardless if I agree with why we are there, some > >are > >to serve a political purpose. Therefore is not a needless event. > > > >Unfortunately at times bad things happen to go forth into the future > >and > >bring good things. Now I for one, are sad that ANYONE has to die in > >ANY > >war that comes about. I wish things could be resolved during peace > >talks > >and within reason. However this is not a perfect world. Everyone has > >beliefs. > >Everyone has their opinions on how their perspective countries should > >be > >ran. That's fine. However when it does come down to fighting to save a > >country > >in need per-say Kuwait to be freed from Iraq, some nations would come > >to the > >aid for them. Thus strengthens the bond between countries. > > > >So that way no people from those countries would did come to the aid of > >the > >needy are better off as they (those countries) get along with one > >another. > > > >I may not understand one's culture or practice what another one > >believes > >in whether it is religion or anything. But I do respect their choice > >and do not > >condone them for their beliefs. > > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/03 09:41AM >>> > >I pity the Americans who have served and sometimes died for our > >country. I > >think they're often put in harms way needlessly. I wish none of them > >would > >have died for anyone's agenda. I don't "respect" them simply because > >they > >are military. People join the military for a multitude of reasons, many > >of > >which have nothing to do with noble causes. People join the military to > >get > >away from their parents (my dad), to escape looming debt (a good > >friend), to > >make money for college (lots), etc. None of those reasons has anything > >to do > >with patriotism. Does that garner my respect? No. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:35 AM > >Subject: RE: A good american > > > > > >> >While I hardly think > >> >that my survival depends on the sacrifices of the military, > >> > >> Let me clarify, do you mean that you do not respect the veterans who > >have > >> served and sometimes died for the Untied States? > >> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
