thats if the US is invaded though. (I am not going to go into conscientous
(sp?) objectors; I think some are genuine but if the country is being
invaded they should serve *somehow*)

My problem is when people extrapolate this to all other situations. We
invade Iraq and gee if you don't support this you are a coward. I disagree.

Dana


John Stanley writes:

> Simple situation:
> 
> If a country invaded the united states, and everyone had to choose (which is
> what would happen)
> 
> You would either:
>       1. fight for the US (patriot)
>       2. fight against the US (traitor)
>       3. not fight (coward)
> 
> That's it.
> 
> If you object to fighting on the basis of some personal moral decision when
> your homeland is at stake, then you are a coward.
> 
> If you are drafted and you choose not to fight then you are a coward.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: A good american
> 
> 
> Buddism.
> 
> If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the story.
> 
> I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't go in guns
> blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that sort of
> ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: A good american
> > 
> > 
> > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them 
> > "Cowards" There is no recognized religion that opposes war, 
> > none at all.  In fact all of them have a history of 
> > oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to keep the 
> > faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and 
> > deception. There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict, 
> > only cowardice.  Genuine Conscientious Objectors are nothing 
> > more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon legitimate 
> > government and its loyal people.  They should all be either 
> > exported or executed.
> > 
> > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther 
> > King.  and are completely wrong about the Mennonites.
> > 
> > But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry 
> > will bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional 
> > protections, as well as permitting you to espouse your lies 
> > and deceptions.
> > 
> > 
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: A good american
> > 
> > 
> > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a sincere, 
> > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the military is 
> > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would gladly 
> > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine conscientious 
> > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like Ghandi, Mother 
> > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. There are other 
> > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong 
> > religious beliefs 
> > | against serving in the military.
> > |
> > | Such ignorance is appalling.
> > |
> > | larry
> > |
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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