Dont forget, Jefferson was also the mac with the ladies.... <g>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:25 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Your greatest American


Do we judge importance by their characters, or by what they did with their
jobs? While Washington may have been a terrible general, he did lead the
army that eventually made us an independent country. Lincoln used the
slavery issue to his own benefit, and he was not the most perfect of men
(far from it) but what he did had a high impact. I could see voting for
Washington and Lincoln on that basis alone. 

I'm not saying that Jefferson wasn't a tremendously great or important
American -- the question is whether his accomplishments are as great in
their impact on our country.

(Jefferson is one of my favorites as well --  more so than Washington or
Lincoln -- but I also have to be fair.)

Judith
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From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Your greatest American


> Thursday, June 12, 2003, 7:44:33 PM, you wrote:
> >>   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/wtwta/2959462.stm
> >>
> >>   Please vote...Homer Simpson is winning :(
> >>   Homer Simpson, and Mr. T may be a sad commentary, but Lincoln and
> >>   MLK were NOT more important than Thomas Jefferson (my vote)...pfft.
> >>
> >>   The people who voted for Washington and Clinton are just idiots
> >>   because they probably weren't joking.
> 
> LCL> Why? Clinton did a lot for the nation, while Washington's role is 
> LCL> painfully obvious. Franklin D Roosevelt probably saved the nation 
> LCL> from another revolution, this time a communist one, while Jefferson, 
> LCL> with all his very obvious flaws wrote one of the most important 
> LCL> documents at the core of the ideals of the nation. At least Ronnie 
> LCL> Raygun, Bush nor Shrub were on the list.
> 
> LCL> larry
> 
> 
> Clinton in retrospect was a decent president, not bad, not
> excellent. The greatest American though? He isn't even in that
> ballpark. There has been a lot of decent presidents.
> Henry Ford would rank higher on my list than either of those
> presidents, or Ben Franklin.
> 
> Washington was a buffoon who only got to the the Constitutional
> Congress because he married a rich mans daughter, and was a terrible
> unqualified general who got a lot of soldiers killed. He wasn't good
> at anything but dressing in that stupid fancy coat. They picked the
> most harmless guy they could find, and made him president. Perfect for
> the job imo. Definitely not the greatest American.
> 
> I could understand why someone would pick FDR...he just wouldn't be my
> choice. Definitely Top 10 though.
> 
> Jefferson has always been by far my favorite, and he had very few
> faults as far as I'm concerned. One example...while president he
> examined every single patent application personally. Probably the last
> president to even step into the patent office, let alone intelligent
> enough to understand every invention.
> He was the President that told American citizens that the second
> amendment was their protection against the tyranny of their own
> government.
> 
> -- 
>  jon
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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