good point

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:29:29 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> One thing about Washington, at the end of the war, he went home, he did 
> not
> attempt to take control of the country by force. He did see that the
> military should not be used to setup a government.
>
> He had an opportunity to take this country down the wrong path, and he
> choose not to.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:25 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Your greatest American
>>
>> Do we judge importance by their characters, or by what they did with 
>> their
>> jobs? While Washington may have been a terrible general, he did lead the
>> army that eventually made us an independent country. Lincoln used the
>> slavery issue to his own benefit, and he was not the most perfect of men
>> (far from it) but what he did had a high impact. I could see voting for
>> Washington and Lincoln on that basis alone.
>>
>> I'm not saying that Jefferson wasn't a tremendously great or important
>> American -- the question is whether his accomplishments are as great in
>> their impact on our country.
>>
>> (Jefferson is one of my favorites as well --  more so than Washington or
>> Lincoln -- but I also have to be fair.)
>>
>> Judith
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Your greatest American
>>
>>
>> > Thursday, June 12, 2003, 7:44:33 PM, you wrote:
>> > >>   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/wtwta/2959462.stm
>> > >>
>> > >>   Please vote...Homer Simpson is winning :(
>> > >>   Homer Simpson, and Mr. T may be a sad commentary, but Lincoln and
>> > >>   MLK were NOT more important than Thomas Jefferson (my vote) 
>> ...pfft.
>> > >>
>> > >>   The people who voted for Washington and Clinton are just idiots
>> > >>   because they probably weren't joking.
>> >
>> > LCL> Why? Clinton did a lot for the nation, while Washington's role is
>> > LCL> painfully obvious. Franklin D Roosevelt probably saved the nation
>> > LCL> from another revolution, this time a communist one, while
>> Jefferson,
>> > LCL> with all his very obvious flaws wrote one of the most important
>> > LCL> documents at the core of the ideals of the nation. At least 
>> Ronnie
>> > LCL> Raygun, Bush nor Shrub were on the list.
>> >
>> > LCL> larry
>> >
>> >
>> > Clinton in retrospect was a decent president, not bad, not
>> > excellent. The greatest American though? He isn't even in that
>> > ballpark. There has been a lot of decent presidents.
>> > Henry Ford would rank higher on my list than either of those
>> > presidents, or Ben Franklin.
>> >
>> > Washington was a buffoon who only got to the the Constitutional
>> > Congress because he married a rich mans daughter, and was a terrible
>> > unqualified general who got a lot of soldiers killed. He wasn't good
>> > at anything but dressing in that stupid fancy coat. They picked the
>> > most harmless guy they could find, and made him president. Perfect for
>> > the job imo. Definitely not the greatest American.
>> >
>> > I could understand why someone would pick FDR...he just wouldn't be my
>> > choice. Definitely Top 10 though.
>> >
>> > Jefferson has always been by far my favorite, and he had very few
>> > faults as far as I'm concerned. One example...while president he
>> > examined every single patent application personally. Probably the last
>> > president to even step into the patent office, let alone intelligent
>> > enough to understand every invention.
>> > He was the President that told American citizens that the second
>> > amendment was their protection against the tyranny of their own
>> > government.
>> >
>> > --
>> >  jon
>> >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>>
> 
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