Hey - nobody's perfect. Jim Davis President, http://www.depressedpress.com Webmaster, http://www.firstnight.org Webmaster, http://www.cfAdvocacy.org Senior Consultant, http://www.metlife.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:53 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Your greatest American > > At 10:02 AM 6/13/2003 -0400, Jim Davis wrote: > >Its still gotta be Benjamin Franklin... writer, scientist, inventor, and > >general, all-around smart-ass. > > He as also a persecutor of Americans who supported the British government. > His son was a customs officer for the colonial government and refused to > cooperate with the rebels. Franklin had his son jailed over the issue and > advocated having him executed. Which was a moot point since his son died > shortly after of the ill treatment his father ensured he had. Franklin > also > encouraged supporters of the revolution to loot and destroy the homes and > businesses of the Loyalists. He was the one who came up with the idea of > the concentration camps for the Loyalists. > > A good man, no, not much better than any fanatic. > > larry > > > > >Jim Davis > >President, http://www.depressedpress.com > >Webmaster, http://www.firstnight.org > >Webmaster, http://www.cfAdvocacy.org > >Senior Consultant, http://www.metlife.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:29 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Your greatest American > > > > > > One thing about Washington, at the end of the war, he went home, he > >did > > > not > > > attempt to take control of the country by force. He did see that the > > > military should not be used to setup a government. > > > > > > He had an opportunity to take this country down the wrong path, and he > > > choose not to. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:25 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Your greatest American > > > > > > > > Do we judge importance by their characters, or by what they did with > > > their > > > > jobs? While Washington may have been a terrible general, he did lead > >the > > > > army that eventually made us an independent country. Lincoln used > >the > > > > slavery issue to his own benefit, and he was not the most perfect of > >men > > > > (far from it) but what he did had a high impact. I could see voting > >for > > > > Washington and Lincoln on that basis alone. > > > > > > > > I'm not saying that Jefferson wasn't a tremendously great or > >important > > > > American -- the question is whether his accomplishments are as great > >in > > > > their impact on our country. > > > > > > > > (Jefferson is one of my favorites as well -- more so than > >Washington or > > > > Lincoln -- but I also have to be fair.) > > > > > > > > Judith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:14 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Your greatest American > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, June 12, 2003, 7:44:33 PM, you wrote: > > > > > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/wtwta/2959462.stm > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Please vote...Homer Simpson is winning :( > > > > > >> Homer Simpson, and Mr. T may be a sad commentary, but Lincoln > >and > > > > > >> MLK were NOT more important than Thomas Jefferson (my > > > vote)...pfft. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The people who voted for Washington and Clinton are just > >idiots > > > > > >> because they probably weren't joking. > > > > > > > > > > LCL> Why? Clinton did a lot for the nation, while Washington's > >role is > > > > > LCL> painfully obvious. Franklin D Roosevelt probably saved the > >nation > > > > > LCL> from another revolution, this time a communist one, while > > > > Jefferson, > > > > > LCL> with all his very obvious flaws wrote one of the most > >important > > > > > LCL> documents at the core of the ideals of the nation. At least > > > Ronnie > > > > > LCL> Raygun, Bush nor Shrub were on the list. > > > > > > > > > > LCL> larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton in retrospect was a decent president, not bad, not > > > > > excellent. The greatest American though? He isn't even in that > > > > > ballpark. There has been a lot of decent presidents. > > > > > Henry Ford would rank higher on my list than either of those > > > > > presidents, or Ben Franklin. > > > > > > > > > > Washington was a buffoon who only got to the the Constitutional > > > > > Congress because he married a rich mans daughter, and was a > >terrible > > > > > unqualified general who got a lot of soldiers killed. He wasn't > >good > > > > > at anything but dressing in that stupid fancy coat. They picked > >the > > > > > most harmless guy they could find, and made him president. Perfect > >for > > > > > the job imo. Definitely not the greatest American. > > > > > > > > > > I could understand why someone would pick FDR...he just wouldn't > >be my > > > > > choice. Definitely Top 10 though. > > > > > > > > > > Jefferson has always been by far my favorite, and he had very few > > > > > faults as far as I'm concerned. One example...while president he > > > > > examined every single patent application personally. Probably the > >last > > > > > president to even step into the patent office, let alone > >intelligent > > > > > enough to understand every invention. > > > > > He was the President that told American citizens that the second > > > > > amendment was their protection against the tyranny of their own > > > > > government. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > jon > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
