Ok, I've been lurking on this Erika topic, and enjoying the recipes and food
discussions being shared.  This has hit on a personal theory of mine, and I
wonder how others on this list might feel about it.

I'm noticing that there are some very good cooks on this list, particularly
Adam here, who sounds like he might be professionally trained or at least an
extremely enthusiastic and well read amateur.  Being a professionally
trained (CIA) and 10 year veteran chef myself I've truly appreciated this
discussion.

My theory is that there are a lot of similarities between cooking and
programming.  They are both a true mix of art and science.  They both are
all about taking basic building blocks and creating more complex entities
that can continue to be combined in multiple ways to create a final product.
There are few positions that require more multi-tasking and time management
then a professional chef.  Every day, you have dozens of tasks that must be
done by the strictest deadline of the dinning room opening and you must
properly plan the order and do more then one thing at a time to get this
accomplished.  This training has served me extremely well in my second
career as a programmer.

How many of you are or have been professional or amateur cooks?  What other
secondary/alternate/hobby activates mesh as well with programming?  I was
once told that musicians also mesh will with programming for many similar
reasons.

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Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: erika


> Besides making good chicken stock is a lot easier than the
> method you describe.

Actually, if you're making a roasted-bones chicken stock (the kind that has
a darker color and a deeper, slightly nuttier flavor), the two processes are
rather similar.

Glace de viande is the ultimate reduction of gelatinous beef stock until no
more moisture can be expelled.  It hardens into a solid dark brown block
that you crack with a mallet into little pieces and store uncovered in the
fridge for up to a week.  It dissolves nicely in sauces, provides a depth
and richness of flavor and a high gloss, and thickens and smoothes the sauce
into a perfect mouth feel.  It's rarely used in home cooking because of the
effort and short fridge life, but if you're all stressed out from work and
want to relax, it's a great distraction.

PS-- If you make your own chicken stock, try this:

1) Simmer the chicken whole for about one hour in barely salted water at
just the barest hint of a simmer.  Remove from heat and let the chicken cool
in its liquid.

2) Pick the chicken clean and reserve the simmering liquid, carcass, wings
tips, skin, and bones.  Use the meat for something else.

3) Hack the carcass and cut the skin into 1-inch pieces, and place in a
roasting pan with two quartered onions with the skins left on, a carrot or
two cut into inch-long pieces, one bay leaf, two teaspoons of whole black
peppercorns, and either one sprig of fresh thyme or a pinch of dried thyme.
No salt yet.

4) Roast at 400-F until everything is nicely light brown

5) Transfer the mixture to your stock pot and deglaze the roasting pan with
some of the reserved simmering liquid from earlier to dissolve all the fond,
then tranfer that plus the remaining simmering liquid to the stock pot.

6) Add enough cold water to just cover and bring to a barely moving simmer
uncovered (or you'll roll in the albumins and cloud the stock).  Simmer only
about an hour or it'll get bitter.

7) Strain through cheesecloth, de-fat in a separator (best kitchen invention
ever made), strain through cheesecloth one last time, and season to taste.

I typically don't reduce chicken stock any further because it turns bitter
on me.  You should end up with a rich and flavorful roasted chicken stock.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Member of Team Macromedia

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