One very important attribute for the Chef is presentation, presentation,
presentation.

A trait so often lacking in programmers, who many times are far better coders
than designers.

I think it is just as important in web development to use the same byword of
presentation.

So the question is, do you just follow a recipe, or is every project a creation?

Otherwise, there are many similarities.

Doug
the amateur cook, extraordinaire.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: Cooking and programming WAS RE: Erika


| Ok, I've been lurking on this Erika topic, and enjoying the recipes and food
| discussions being shared.  This has hit on a personal theory of mine, and I
| wonder how others on this list might feel about it.
|
| I'm noticing that there are some very good cooks on this list, particularly
| Adam here, who sounds like he might be professionally trained or at least an
| extremely enthusiastic and well read amateur.  Being a professionally
| trained (CIA) and 10 year veteran chef myself I've truly appreciated this
| discussion.
|
| My theory is that there are a lot of similarities between cooking and
| programming.  They are both a true mix of art and science.  They both are
| all about taking basic building blocks and creating more complex entities
| that can continue to be combined in multiple ways to create a final product.
| There are few positions that require more multi-tasking and time management
| then a professional chef.  Every day, you have dozens of tasks that must be
| done by the strictest deadline of the dinning room opening and you must
| properly plan the order and do more then one thing at a time to get this
| accomplished.  This training has served me extremely well in my second
| career as a programmer.
|
| How many of you are or have been professional or amateur cooks?  What other
| secondary/alternate/hobby activates mesh as well with programming?  I was
| once told that musicians also mesh will with programming for many similar
| reasons.
|
| --------------
| Ian Skinner
| Web Programmer
| BloodSource
| Sacramento, CA
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:13 PM
| To: CF-Community
| Subject: Re: erika
|
|
| > Besides making good chicken stock is a lot easier than the
| > method you describe.
|
| Actually, if you're making a roasted-bones chicken stock (the kind that has
| a darker color and a deeper, slightly nuttier flavor), the two processes are
| rather similar.
|
| Glace de viande is the ultimate reduction of gelatinous beef stock until no
| more moisture can be expelled.  It hardens into a solid dark brown block
| that you crack with a mallet into little pieces and store uncovered in the
| fridge for up to a week.  It dissolves nicely in sauces, provides a depth
| and richness of flavor and a high gloss, and thickens and smoothes the sauce
| into a perfect mouth feel.  It's rarely used in home cooking because of the
| effort and short fridge life, but if you're all stressed out from work and
| want to relax, it's a great distraction.
|
| PS-- If you make your own chicken stock, try this:
|
| 1) Simmer the chicken whole for about one hour in barely salted water at
| just the barest hint of a simmer.  Remove from heat and let the chicken cool
| in its liquid.
|
| 2) Pick the chicken clean and reserve the simmering liquid, carcass, wings
| tips, skin, and bones.  Use the meat for something else.
|
| 3) Hack the carcass and cut the skin into 1-inch pieces, and place in a
| roasting pan with two quartered onions with the skins left on, a carrot or
| two cut into inch-long pieces, one bay leaf, two teaspoons of whole black
| peppercorns, and either one sprig of fresh thyme or a pinch of dried thyme.
| No salt yet.
|
| 4) Roast at 400-F until everything is nicely light brown
|
| 5) Transfer the mixture to your stock pot and deglaze the roasting pan with
| some of the reserved simmering liquid from earlier to dissolve all the fond,
| then tranfer that plus the remaining simmering liquid to the stock pot.
|
| 6) Add enough cold water to just cover and bring to a barely moving simmer
| uncovered (or you'll roll in the albumins and cloud the stock).  Simmer only
| about an hour or it'll get bitter.
|
| 7) Strain through cheesecloth, de-fat in a separator (best kitchen invention
| ever made), strain through cheesecloth one last time, and season to taste.
|
| I typically don't reduce chicken stock any further because it turns bitter
| on me.  You should end up with a rich and flavorful roasted chicken stock.
|
| Respectfully,
|
| Adam Phillip Churvis
| Member of Team Macromedia
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